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Old 09-01-2008, 01:32 PM   #151
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yeah, I just saw that on CNN.... Like I said... give the Dems a few days to find the dirt. Hopefully this is all they have to find.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:39 PM   #152
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I haven't seen it yet on the news... but here's the next one... remember the flip-flop stories?



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Old 09-01-2008, 01:43 PM   #153
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And the next rumor... she was pregnant when she got married!!! Remember, you heard it here first! Nope, I'm not the daddy!
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This "dirt digging" is downright nasty.... Instead of focusing on what their plans actually are, they focus on bringing down the opponent. Disgusting!

Anyway, I believe that Obama's campaign should be very careful with this game, as I suspect he's got way more to loose....
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Let's be fair about this now. There was plenty dug up on Obama for the last several months. Turn about is fair play. Found this. LOL

Before she was named McCain's Vice Presidential nominee today, no one except for the seven people who live in Alaska ever heard of Gov. Sarah Palin -- or that she came in second place at the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant.

Palin did win Miss Wasilla and the coveted Miss Congeniality award. So who cares what her
economic plan is?
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I'd like to hibernate with that in the igloo!
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Yeah,
Just heard the news about Pailn's daughter........ Thank God she has a normal family life and all the crisis' that go with normality! If I had to dig up dirt on Obama and Palin and Biden and McCain, guess what? There would be mole hills on three of them and a snowy capped, high altitude peak on one of them. (Mt. Obama!) Here.......... I just got this in my e-mail: Makes me question this "great orator" on just about anything else he say's..........

OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLY'S'

1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) My Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) My Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was a communist economist and part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....

http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.....25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam ''http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully miscalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, besides how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it

GOD HELP US IF WE JUST SIT IDLY BY AND LET THIS PERSON BECOME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.IT WOULD BE SUICIDAL FOR US TO DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. PASS THIS ON TO ALL THE ONES YOU VALUE, JUST AS I AM DOING. IT'S TIME THE 'SILENT MAJORITY' TAKE A STAND GET OUT AND VOTE! PLEASE!
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You know...she takes care of herself...at 44 she looks better than she did in her teens. Ok..so shes hot...and smart...she obviously is no nonsense...and in a short year and a half has turned Alaska's economic woes around. Now..Alaska roughly 700000 residents..but lets face it..that is still a good chunk of people to govern. and to make a difference in such a short period of time...thats pretty impressive..

She has proven that she has the skills to handle the small market...that is still better than anything Obama can tie to his name.

Obama Biden...it still sounds a lot like osama bin laden...It will be interesting to see how they have it listed on the ballots...It might scare a few people away just playing the word game.


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Old 09-01-2008, 08:31 PM   #159
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Palin for president in 2012
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:05 PM   #160
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Well, the vultures at CNN are having a field day... pictures of the city hall where she was mayor.. sayign it looks like a Louisiana bait shop. Her "abstainance first" program for Alaska even failed at home.. etc..

Our boy Osama (I mean Obama) is publically saying he's staying out of family issues (I guess the lengthy posts above explain why).. but you know that behind the scenes, his folks are calling all the shots.

Yep, looks like the next few months are shaping up to be nasty ones. I just hope she's up to the battle.
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Mike..you heading to the field tomorrow..???
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A very good read here that is a little long for this forum.

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Mike..you heading to the field tomorrow..???
Yep.. looks like the weather will be pretty mild, so I'll wait for the school traffic to die down and head that way.. probably around 9 or 9:30.

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Yep, looks like the next few months are shaping up to be nasty ones. I just hope she's up to the battle.
I'm sure she was schooled on what would happen. There are no surprises anymore.
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I noticed somethign during Barak's acceptance speech, and I've seen it a few times since, but I haven't heard the networks commenting on it (probably because I haven't watched Fox)...

He's wearing the lapel flag pin again.

Yep, that fake symbol of true patriotism that other politicians have been using instead of exercising their patriotism! So, why the sudden change? There was some BS a month or so ago when he wore a pin at a rally.. supposedly a disabled vet gave it to him... so he wore it ... once. Now, you'd think that all of his suits have a permanent hole in them.

His handlers obviously let him know that now the stakes are too high to risk people's questions about his practice of NOT wearing the pin.

So, who's wearing the pin as a symbol of their Patriotism, and who's wearing it for pretentious reasons? You tell me.
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