Full scale pilots.....most aggressive acrobat aircraft?

[JEFFRO503]

I'm not sure how many replies on this i'll get , but i wanted to ask here anyways. as far as flying an acrobatic type aircraft , and you REALLY wanted to throw down some some serious moves such as harrier rolls , knife edge passes , loops , rools , you name it..........what aircraft do you see as the most aggressive? Which one will flop around with the best of them?

I know in the red bull air race stuff they seem to be flying the Extra 300's , edge 540's , MX2's and so forth , but they aren't doing areboatics with them.

Are the Sukhois SU-26's and 31's still considerd an aggressive acrobatic aircraft?

[jongurley]

Edge 540's,, most are all composite, light and can pull +- 11 g's.,,,

[Dad_Roman]

su-26 I think is probably the best monowing aerobatic aircraft out there. Tons of guys are still flying them. the edge's extra's amd MX's are all about the same honestly. The EDGE is a steel frame fabric covered with a composite wing. EXTRA's are mostly composite construction. MX's are all composite but they are twitchy.. still need to be refined a bit.

If you are looking for the most AGGRESSIVE, the modified PITTS aircraft that guys like Sean tucker and Skip Stewart are flying are the way to go. Take a stock S1 or S2S and swap out the wings for one of the newer designs, change the rudder and elevators out for larger more modern surfaces, yank out every single piece of unnessacery weight you can, mount an IO540 on the front, and put some more aero cowling on that bad boy and you have th emoste extreme aerobatic machine money cant buy,

[Vic3D]

From what I've heard, Caps and Edges. Maybe Matt will see this and chime in here.

[JEFFRO503]

Awesome replies guys and thank you! I had been watching some videos of jurgis kaiyrs and he is simply amazing.....looks like an RC airplane with some of his moves. this video in paticular raised the hair on the back of my neck >>

YouTube - Sukhoi Su-26. Fantastic Flight by...

he whips it inverted and a super low pass right under a small bridge..HAHA!! Awesome! also....the reason i asked this was because at looking at a lot of videos and seeing a few airshows the Sukhoi just looks like it floats so well. I wasn't really sure how the Edge's and extra's stacked up against something like the sukhoi. Tucker's pitts.....yeah it's amazing! I've seen him fly in person a few times , and he's really cool to watch. I'm more into the Mono wing aircraft though.

[ifly3d]

Man, he has got some big ones

[Silvanskii]

The late Jim LeRoy's Bulldog 2 was the hardest flying combination I've seen.

Nowadays the most intense seems to be Gary Ward and Paul Lopez, both in MX2's.

http://www.mxaircraft.com/ has links to their sites and various videos. I particularly like the wall to waterfall they do.

[statbeast]

That Jurgis Kaiyrs video is amazing. I wouldn't even have the balls to try that with one of my little electrics!

[gjmjoe017]

I have to say the Bulldog II did things in an aggressive manor like I have never seen anyone else do,but that had a lot to do with the man on the stick!!!Jim LeRoy.

[JEFFRO503]

	Quote: Originally Posted by gjmjoe017
	I have to say the Bulldog II did things in an aggressive manor like I have never seen anyone else do,but that had a lot to do with the man on the stick!!!Jim LeRoy.

I can second that! Jim was an amazing pilot to watch , along with tucker. Jim is sorely missed for sure!

[Gus155]

Jugis in the Sukhoi is the MAN. Search for video of Jurgis at the Aero Grand Prix at Motegi in Japan.
Great stuff.

[jack01]

I'm voting for the bipes, like what Skip has. That thing is absolutely incredible.

[Gus155]

Jurgis Kairys' Aerobatic Performance at Willow...

[JEFFRO503]

WOW!! I hadn't seen that video yet. Scary how he does those really low pull outs.

[Acropaul]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Dad_Roman
	su-26 I think is probably the best monowing aerobatic aircraft out there. Tons of guys are still flying them. the edge's extra's amd MX's are all about the same honestly. The EDGE is a steel frame fabric covered with a composite wing. EXTRA's are mostly composite construction. MX's are all composite but they are twitchy.. still need to be refined a bit. If you are looking for the most AGGRESSIVE, the modified PITTS aircraft that guys like Sean tucker and Skip Stewart are flying are the way to go. Take a stock S1 or S2S and swap out the wings for one of the newer designs, change the rudder and elevators out for larger more modern surfaces, yank out every single piece of unnessacery weight you can, mount an IO540 on the front, and put some more aero cowling on that bad boy and you have th emoste extreme aerobatic machine money cant buy,

In the world of mono planes the most successful modern day mono plane is the SU-31 not the 26.
In the world of flat motors the Extra's are no where as maneuverable as the Edge or MX2. The Extra is much heavier then either of this aircraft, and less maneuverable. As for the the MX2 being "Twitchy" let me steal and modify a quote from the late Curtis Pitts. Airplanes are not twitchy pilots are. But really what you are referring to is the superior maneuverability of the plane with lighting fast responses to the controls. In most aerobatic planes you think it and it happens. The MX2 nows what you are thinking so be careful what you think. The first time you fly one you think to yourself my god this thing is sensitive how am I ever going to get this on the ground then after a few basic maneuvers you get almost comfortable. It takes 10's of hours to truly get used to it but when you do everything else feels in slow motion. To validate my beliefs just look at my friend Rob Hollands recent accomplishments in his MX2. Advanced World Champion 2008, and US National 4 Minute Free Champion. I think that speaks volumes of the airplane and of course Rob. One title is aresti based flying and the 4 minute Free is airshow style flying which believe me are 2 totally different flying styles.
The beauty of being an all Carbon prepreg composite aircraft is that the MX2 is simply the strongest aerobatic plane built today period. My MX2 is serial number one with just over 550 hours on it I routinely put positive 11g and 7g negative G the airplane has been to over 12 positive and minus.