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Old 10-05-2008, 05:12 PM   #16
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Default Re: Full scale pilots.....most aggressive acrobat aircraft?

Hey Paul, how did it go at Sebring? I was there Sat AM before all of you acro guys were out of bed!
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:03 PM   #17
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Jurgis loafs through his stuff with the SU-31. He's been flying it for a long time. would need to get used to adding left rudder in a climb out though. Chapman was doing some pretty good harrier rolls at the end of his routine this year at Osh Kosh. It's all about the pilot and what you want to see. You've probably seen this vid of Rob Holland and the MX2....?
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:33 PM   #18
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That was awesome!! So good to see it from the perspective of the guy doing all the work. Makes you stop and think about how much work goes into assembling a series of maneuvers and turning them into a cohesive routine that's pleasing to those on the ground.

Thanks for sharing!!
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:04 PM   #19
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HOLY HELL!! I am so glad i started this thread! That in "cock pit" flying by Rob Holland was the best i've seen to date! I can't believe how hard he jams the flight stick back and forth and side to side. And the little touch and go at the end , then a complete spin , and then land again....friggin' amazing! Thanks for posting that Tim!!! I'll probably watch that another 4-5 times tonight.



BTW Tim.........Did you end up picking up your new Aerobat Cessna from up here in Washington? How does she fly? Looked really good when you sent me the pics of her!

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Old 10-05-2008, 09:57 PM   #20
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Yep,
Picked up the Aerobat in some nasty weather. Made it to Scapoose with 150' ceilings. Then crawled across the Portland Class C at 800 feet, then down the Columbia River to the Dalles. It was clear by the time we reached the Dalles. 18 hours later, we were home!

Been doing quite a few rolls, loops, spins, snaps with the aerobat. It exceeds expectations with the rolls, quicker than a Citabria or Decathlon. I'm just having fun and enjoying the airplane.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:29 PM   #21
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Wow, those are some awesome videos...thanks for posting them. In-cockpit: awesome! I'm gonna have to try that touch-and-go to roll and back down again... About Jurgis' plain white Sukhoi--jeesh, what's a guy gotta do to get some sponsors?

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hey tim I say lets make a video... what do ya think hehehe
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:37 PM   #23
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Jurgis,
Oh don't you worry. Jurgis changes schemes on his hoopty with the seasons. He had this one last year with the Dead-heads. He also had decked in Arabic last year. Apparently he's hot stuff in the United Arab Emirates.

Jurgis has been flying the 26 and 31 for a looonng time. Eugene Frolov w/ the Sukhoi design bureau might have been the only one flying one longer. Eugene helped sell one of the first, if not THE first SU-26 in the USA to Tom Jones in OKC back in the late 80's.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:38 PM   #24
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you got a flight whenever you can make it over here.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:30 AM   #25
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I honestly would have to say that hands down the Cap 231ex/232 is by far the most aggresive tumbling full scale aircraft out there

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Yep,
Picked up the Aerobat in some nasty weather. Made it to Scapoose with 150' ceilings. Then crawled across the Portland Class C at 800 feet, then down the Columbia River to the Dalles. It was clear by the time we reached the Dalles. 18 hours later, we were home!

Been doing quite a few rolls, loops, spins, snaps with the aerobat. It exceeds expectations with the rolls, quicker than a Citabria or Decathlon. I'm just having fun and enjoying the airplane.

DAMN....hehe........you touched down in Scappoose and that's like 4 miles from my house! That sucks about the weather.....150' cielings? Man , i aint ready to fly in that stuff without an extra pair of shorts! I'm glad the cessna is working out for you Tim , maybe one day we'll fly together? Glad you got it ( and you) home in one piece! Sounds like it was a long flight.
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Virtually impossible to answer (without bias)! Edge, MX2, modified Pitts, SU26, all are pretty comparable, no-one could tell any of them apart from the cockpit.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:23 PM   #28
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To bad you never had a chance to see Bob Herendeen fly a single place pitts, or you would have a different opinion. He was hands down the best Pitts pilot ever IMO. Man could he make that thing tumble hard.. Tom

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Old 12-23-2008, 02:56 PM   #29
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Ahh. Bob Herendeen, the flying Gentleman. Pretty good with a Glasair too!
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Yeah it was good, but I liked the Pitts better. With over 30 years going to Oshkosh I've seen a whole bunch of cool aerobatics. Also for a while back in the 90's? they had an airshow showcase here in the midwest where people could book performers for the next seasons airshows. I saw some cool stuff there as well. It's sad because a whole bunch of those people are no longer with us. Tom
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