Tail wheels! TAIL WHEELS!!!

[The_Wreck]

	Quote: Originally Posted by link
	I have never been a fan of the wire tail wheel and have had limited luck with the carbon because it delaminates. The wheel portion and the carbon leaf componet is more to my taste and I believe I saw these at Joe Nall this year but not sure of the manufacture. This really looks trick and look foward to seeing whats in store.

We had a booth setup at Joe Nall, so you may have talked with us there. We were down at the end next to Smart-Fly. We ultimately decided to go with a titanium wire setup because they are more durable, as well as, we like the way they look. I have had carbon setups from some of the other makers and ultimately either they delaminated or the wheel carriage itself gave way to fatigue.

[bpetty620]

Guys these things are great!!! I have had two of these tail wheels now and i love them, you can even control the plane on the ground with these things. LOL

I am flying off of a 400ft long paved run way, with 40% planes and i have no run off at all, so if i'm hot coming in then i'm up the creek, but now with my J&J tail wheel i can swerve back and Fourth with control and turn around at the end of the run way with out going off

I'm just saying you wont go wrong with this tail wheel!!!!!!!!!

Bradley Petty

[khedge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by The_Wreck
	We currently make the one size that is suited for a 35-46% airplane, and on some of the new larger 33% airplanes. There are pictures on the website of them installed on both 35% and 40% or larger airplanes. The all up weight for the traditional tailwheel is 2.9 ounces and the direct drive excluding the wire is 2.85 ounces. The weight can be reduced another .5 ounce by changing the supplied DUBRO tailwheel with a lighter 1.5" wheel like a Hangar9 Pro-Lite, MPI aluminum hub wheel for electric planes, or .3 ounce for a Sullivan 1.5" wheel.

I checked out your website and I like the 5 spoke wheels you got. I got to get a set for my new 35% dalton am building. Do the tires do well on grass field too. They look similar to jet tires.

[Patrick H]

Nice tail wheels. Look like a million dollars.

[TazmanianDevil]

Hi John,
Just like to say that your product is an awesome innovation.
By the way, it looks like it has allot of common sense

Adi

[The_Wreck]

	Quote: Originally Posted by TazmanianDevil
	Hi John, Just like to say that your product is an awesome innovation. You can by the way it looks that it has allot of comon sense Adi

Thanks for the compliment Adi, that means a lot coming from a guy that insists on making quality products.

[StickerBiotch]

We liked them so much we became a Dealer
http://www.aerographix.biz/tail_wheels.htm

[TazmanianDevil]

Well Bryan, its about time :-)
John, i edit my reply since it had some grammar mistakes.
Again, this is a very innovative feature that has allot of common sense, people wont look at tail wheels the same way they did, ever again.

Best of luck Budd.

Adi

[Tired Old Man]

I just bought two of the J&J tailwheels. I meant to do that soon after looking at the size and bulk of the White Rose units in Toledo. I guess it just takes me a little time to get around to things.

Now if J&J was to downsize their product just enough to cover the 28% size class they would have a solid lock on the premiun tailwheel markt.

[The_Wreck]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Tired Old Man
	I just bought two of the J&J tailwheels. I meant to do that soon after looking at the size and bulk of the White Rose units in Toledo. I guess it just takes me a little time to get around to things. Now if J&J was to downsize their product just enough to cover the 28% size class they would have a solid lock on the premiun tailwheel markt.

We have had a lot of requests to downsize, however, because of the way we make these, they would cost about the same to make them in a 28-30% size. The material cost and machining would all be about the same, and it is hard to see a big market for $75 tailwheel on a 28-30% airplane.

The main difference between our current tailwheel and one for that size plane is the length, we can do custom bends for our tailwheel if somebody wants one that is dimensionally smaller. This would bring down the weight and changing the actual DUBRO wheel could further get the weight close to 2 oz.

It is very expensive to make small batches of these things but I guess if we get enough response we may make some smaller for 30% planes.

[rede2fly]

i would venture to guess that their are more pilots flying 30 % planes than 35 or 40%'ers out in the market, but its hard to find good stuff for them

[Tired Old Man]

That's the position I was seeing it from, but I can see J&J's point for sure. Swap out the 1-1/2" wheel for a 1" wheel, change the bends and you have what you need in the 28%-30% class. Flip side is I've seen a lot of people in the 28% class go the top of the line route in equipment. Some of that has been from the performance standpoint but some of it's probably been just for "bragging rights". Either way they'll invest near as much as would be done in a larger plane. Working with Wild Hare for the last few years has shown that a lot of people go "over the top" with their equipment. The loss of RC Blimp has left a void that begs to be filled.

[The_Wreck]

One of our favorite competitors who mentioned in this thread, simply sells smaller carbon leaf springs for his 30% tailwheel, everything else remains the same. I suppose we could try exactly what you say. Produce some new titanium that is still .25" but is dimensionally smaller and use a 1" wheel.

[Tired Old Man]

It wouldn't alter the price structure much, if at all, but it would permit servicing another size class of planes that's currently untended when it comes to lighter weight, wire sprung tailwheels. As in anything else the initial sales and exposure would be slow and small but gradually increase over a period of time. The start up cost from the production standpoint would be nearly non existant since the tooling and materials used are already present.

With the understanding that gassers are not the largest segment of r/c flight there are still a lot of 28% class planes out there compared to 35% and up. The way I see it, the more tailwheels you folks sell the larger your margins.

Success means you will be around a long time, fulfilling product needs as I need more for my own stuff. Selfish for sure, but I just can't stand seeing great products fall to the wayside because they did not sell enough to remain a viable business

You make a very nice tailwheel !!

[3D Meatshield]

I'm about to get one of these for my 86" QQ Yak, size be damned. I'm not too happy with the stock one, and even if this is a bit oversized I'd rather have something rock solid and non-scale than something that's going to fail (and in my estimation, the stock gear WILL fail.)

How much of a difference in length is there, anyhow, between a 35%er tailgear than a 30%er? Would seem to be negligible to me.

And I agree with tired- there really seems to be a lot more guys flying 30% or less than does 35-40%ers. As much as I want to build a 35%er (or bigger), transportation is an issue. having a handful of 30's I can take and fly is better than having a 35 that I can't leave the house with.