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Old 09-20-2008, 11:30 PM   #1
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Default Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

I have a Sig Rascal 110 and the chinese P.O.S. engine that was on it when i bought it just died. I am going to get a new engine but I dont know what would be best out of the three?
G26ei
G26 w/magneto
G38
I want the plane to be able to hover and then pull strait out and up.
I have heard people putting the G38 in them but never seen pictures of how they fit or anything.
I have also heard the G26 does wonders but I dont know if it will quite do what i want it to. and is that the G26 or G26ei they are talking about?

What is everyone running in it? ( only care for gas )
Prop?
Will it hover?
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:20 AM   #2
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

G-26, ei or mag, well over powered, won't hover, but fun as hell to fly. Other option is an RC Ignition G-26 light. G-38 much too heavy without adding more weight to the rear.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:29 AM   #3
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

G-26 isnt what you are looking for. Get an Evolution 45GX2 or a DA 50.
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

Have you ever flown a 110 Rascal? If so you would know that either the 45 or the 50 would be too large for the airframe, too large for the firewall, and too heavy over all. The effects on the wing loading would be terrible.

Yes, you can fly them quite heavy, as proven by some that used them as UAV trainers, but any type of aerobatics goes out the window. The structural design will only permit so much weight before wings and fuselages fail from stress induced loading generated during elevated "G" maneuvering.

Every aircraft reaches a point where fun flying stops and work begins when made too heavy.

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Old 09-21-2008, 12:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

Yes I have flown my Rascal 110. It had a Ls Pro LS26cc in it. ( peice of junk engine that fell apart ) The engine was already in it when I purchased it from someone else. That engine would hold it in a hover for about 3-5 seconds then start to fall backwords. I am not trying to do the harrier and all when hovering, but i would like to be able to hold it vertical or climb easly.
So the G26magnito or G26ei would be best?
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

The Evolution 26cc puts out some good power - but is a bit spendy.

Check out the great review I found here:

http://tech.flygsw.org/evolution26review.htm
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

Yes it is . That is why I am trying to stick with a Zenoah.
So any referance? G26 or G26ei
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

Disspose, Pat was talking to Octanehuffer, who recommended using a DA 50 or Evolution 45cc.

The Zenoah engines are great, the 26cc is about the most powerful engine in that size on the market. However the Zenoah electronic ignition is somewhat havy and draws a LOT of current.

My recommendation is to talk to Ralph Cunningham (rcign on this forum) and see what he can do. His electronic ignition is light and draws very little current. He was experimenting with a Chinese copy of the Zenoah engine a while back and as I recall the price was sub-$300. Maybe he has better info for you.
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

Also, if your plane balanced with the LS Pro engine, it might be nose heavy with the mag ignition engine.
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

With that engine I had to add a few onces of weight or it would really tail drag.
So if i go with the g26 magneto it should be fine if i take out the weight i already have in it. ( i also wanna go smoke systems so balancing is not to bad.)
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It should balance perfectly with the magneto in this case.

Either way the plane will be a ton of fun to fly! Keep us posted!

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Have you ever flown a 110 Rascal? If so you would know that either the 45 or the 50 would be too large for the airframe, too large for the firewall, and too heavy over all. The effects on the wing loading would be terrible.

Yes, you can fly them quite heavy, as proven by some that used them as UAV trainers, but any type of aerobatics goes out the window. The structural design will only permit so much weight before wings and fuselages fail from stress induced loading generated during elevated "G" maneuvering.

Every aircraft reaches a point where fun flying stops and work begins when made too heavy.
If its the same Sig Rascal 110 I BUILT, then the 45 or 50 will work. The Zenoah G-26ei weighs 41.6oz bare, 52.3 oz total. G-26A is 53oz bare and 59 oz total. The Evolution 45 weighs 45oz bare and 54 oz RTF. So Pat, you tell me if the G-26A I put on the Rascal was too heavy.
The answer to the question was to get the plane to hover. I believe it was answered correctly. Have you been to the Sig meet in Montezuma, Ia? Rascals can hover AND fly. Not with a G-26.
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Default Re: Sig Rascal 110. G26ei G26 or G38?

So OCTANEHUFFER>>>
what zenoah engine would be best if i want it to hover?
You said the g26 would not do it.

so...
g38?

Does anyone have pictures of the rascal with the g38 in it?

You guys are awesome. I am so glad i found Flying Giants.

No I have not been to that sig rascal event.
Being up here at Elmendorf afb in anchorage ak there is not a lot.
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I haven't been there either, but I have ballasted a 110 up to over 120 ounces. Yea, it flew like crap with a 25cc engine in it but it flew.

Sorry, but I had presumed you wanted to maintain a little finesse in your flying style. If it's all about vertical a GT-80 should do it. Otherwise I would keep it light and go with a G-26 lite from Cunningham or an MVVS on pipes.
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A G-38 might do it, but you better send it to Ralph and make it shed some weight. The G-38 weighs 71 total oz. I wouldnt recommend Zenoah for your goal at all. Just slap a G-26 on it and fly. At most give it a tuned pipe. Beyond that the power to weight ratio of a smaller gas engine is not that great. That I know of, the ZDZ 40F3A is the smallest power house. If you want the thing to hover and accelerate vertical you are going to pay for the proper engine.
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