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Old 11-03-2008, 08:16 AM   #16
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HI Guys,

Not a lot more done. The throttle servo mount and rudder servo mount is done. At this point I'm going to swap to wing/stab servo trays, sanding, and monocoting. The firewall is installed too far forward to use my Budd mount. If I use it, the motor will be more than 0.25" sticking out from the nose of the plane.

What Hyde mount is better than the AR80? When I ran the AR80 I couldn't keep a header on the engine. What mount is a bit stiffer than that one? Or, if someone happens to have an extra PassPort firewall laying around they could trace for me I'll consider knocking out this one and installing a new one. Anyone with a firewall they can trace, scan, and email it to me?

Nothing is simple right? Here are a few pictures of the rudder servo tray. Then entire radio bay is now boxed-in with formers and it is VERY STIFF. This is at least as stiff as my Osmose was throughout this same area so I'm confident the plane is going to hold together nicely. The wing adjuster area of installation doesn't flex at all. The forward pin area doesn't flex, so I think this will be good.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:16 AM   #17
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I hope you guys like this airplane. I am good friends with Chip and Todd Blose, and we all fly pass ports. I love mine very much, and I actually won the cajun nationals last weekend which was our district championsship for D6. I took 1st in Advanced an am the 2008 D6 Advanced district Champion. You can see my pass port on my avatar. My pass port does have the side winglets on it now, but that day I took the picture I didn't have them on.

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Old 11-03-2008, 09:42 AM   #18
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Jim,
The Passport is looking great so far!

Matt,
It looks from your Avitar that your Passport is electric powered. If so, what motor/battery package are you using? What are your flight times?
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:25 AM   #19
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Hi Matt - congratulations on your win! I have high hopes for my plane. I'll wring it out for sure and report back what I find with my plane. What type of mix numbers are you using?
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:14 PM   #20
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I'm building my pass-port deluxe KIT now, I have the firewall if you need to copy it. let me know your email.

maybe I'll add some pictures of progress here.

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Old 11-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #21
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Hi Tuny! Please post your pictures here as you go along. If you can, please scan and email the firewall image to jim.woodward@baesystems.com I would really appreciate it. If you can do this, I'll just nock out the original firewall and install this new one set for the Budd mount.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #22
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jim, I´m at the office right now, as soon as I get home Ill send you the Firewall

I´ll post some pictures tonight, do you have info on the CG location?

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Old 11-03-2008, 02:02 PM   #23
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Thanks Tuny. I think about .25" in front of the leading edge of the wing tube is where I'm going to start.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:49 PM   #24
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Default Re: CA Models - PassPort Delux ARC

Jim,

Have you considered a Hyde ARA or an AR mount?

Also, if I'm not mistaken, he makes different versions of the new universal mounts, like the AR-80. I think there is like an AR-70, AR-75, etc.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:56 PM   #25
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Hi Ryan,

Here are a few pics of an install I did in Don's Genesis, with the Hyde AR? mount, and an 1/8" spacer. In this same fuselage, the Budd mount which requires 6 3/8" spacing from the firewall to the spinner backplate, would not fit. Now, on my PassPort, the Budd/YS installation is again, too long (or firewall too close for this particular engine mount).

I guess there are some Hyde mounts that use the 6 3/8" spacing, and some that use a shorter spacing. I happen to have a new Budd mount to use though and will do so.

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Old 11-03-2008, 07:48 PM   #26
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This is mine, just started building on friday. is the deluxe kit.
some pictures.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:43 AM   #27
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Tuny - thanks for the firewall email. I'll post some pictures later. Hopefully I am painting this Saturday.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:28 AM   #28
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The fuselage is now ready to fly minus paint and rudder hinging, which will wait till after paint. Instead of knocking out the firewall I decided to install the motor and see just how far out the engine was going to be. What threw off my initial assesment is that the firewall has more Right Thrust than the nose of the plane has. So at first, I was thinking that I was going to be 3/8" out too far. After installing everything, it is only about 1/8" more forward than I would like, so that is good enough for me to go and fly. If things need changing after the first flight, I'll think about it then.

No pics of the wings, but they are now RTF minus a final sanding and monocote
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:31 AM   #29
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Due to the shape of the chin cowl, the YS regulator actually sticks out further than the chinny. That is why there is an asymetric hole cut out on the front of the chin cowl to let air in. Because of R-thrust, more clearance was needed on the one side of the chin cowl than the other. Also, the header needed some swing-room so that is why the relief hole is there. The pipe stand-off is just a light ply/balsa shelf for the Hatori mount to sit on. It is 7/8" tall.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #30
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Here are a few more pics of the nose ring and anhedral stabs. I made some nifty servo boxes for the Futaba 9650 but haven't installed them yet.

While I was measuring up my Osmose stabs to mirror the serovo installation on the PassPort anhedrals, it became aparent that the hinge lines were different. For instance, one photo shows the monocoted Osmose stabs with a straight-edge laying in the hinge line. The hinge line is straight. There is another photo with the PassPort stabs, which shows that the hinge line looks swept "forward" a fair amount. Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks,
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PS - wing incidences are set to 0.25 positive, and the stab pins look close enough to "zero" to go out and fly.
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