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Old 11-21-2008, 04:17 PM   #16
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Default Re: Brick with Wings

If you really enjoy messing around with this kind of thing then do it, but if not; then get youself a current day airplane because you will most likely never finish it if you do not have a real love for building or modifying these things. Like I stated; It will be allot of work.

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Old 11-21-2008, 05:16 PM   #17
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drop in a dl 50 and see what that does for improvement. Kris W is right about peeling her down and sanding and such but i would try to swap to a lighter engine 1st to see what kind of difference that makes.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:37 PM   #18
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This is where we find out. . if you are a MODELLER. .. or merely a "Flyer". . .
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:03 PM   #19
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Take it to the field, gas it up and light a fuse on the fuel tank, take off and when the fuse ignites the gas tank it will be one of the most awesome sights you ever saw!!! Please get video. LOL Just kidding, yea I would keep the engine, and all the electronics and get yourself another 50cc modern airframe, Tom at Wildhare has some great planes that you could use that engine in. I hope I did'nt offend you.
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:17 PM   #20
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suggest that they jack up the radiator cap and drive a new car underneath.
lol, we use that saying alot in my shop
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:28 PM   #21
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Try to find a used Wild hare extra they are way lighter and built to use a G62 as one of the engine options. They are not quite the plane some of the newer 30% airframes but they fly fair and are readily available used.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:20 PM   #22
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Hi Y'all,

I bought a used Extra 300 and it flys terrible. I met MikeC3D at Kingsbury TX last weekend and he said it's probably too heavy. After seeing his Yak and taking a good look at my Extra I think he's right. The Extra is 10+ years old, 82" wing span, G62 with C&H ignition and weights 19lbs.
I'm hoping for some advise to lightin the plane, presently it's very undisirable to fly. I've included some pics. The side of the plane is styrofoam over 3/16 ply. I've though of cutting lighting holes in the 3/16 ply that runs from the engine mount to the back of the canopy. Everything in back ot the canopy is sticks, no solid wood. Everyone feel welcome to chime in.

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Well, you have allot of replies; have you made a decision? If you are planning to go forward with lighteng it; you could swing by with your airplane and I would be happy to show you what to do. You can just go with a stage 1 diet, or we can take you the edge with stage 3.

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Old 11-21-2008, 11:09 PM   #23
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The G-62 is not your problem. The plane is a sled. Bet the use could have 3 lbs cut out of it with no real thought as to what can go.

Changing the engine out for a lighter one will not do you one once of good I'll bet. You would have to make up the differance with ballast anyway.

Fly it fast or start cuttin' it up. I understand that doing what most seem to suggest here (get another plane ?) is just not cost effective. You could just build a bigger set of wings to handle the load. Again, not effective.

I think the best course of action would be strip the fuse and cut all you can from the fuse. This is just time not so much money. Keep the engine, now matter how old it is your great grandkid can still use it.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:15 AM   #24
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Take it over to Bobs and get the die grinder after it. Or strip it out and pitch/sell it and get a SD 30% Yak. They fly ok on a G62. A bit of minor grinding on the yak and some proper battery selection will get you around 17lb with a lot more wing area..
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:04 AM   #25
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I'd like to thank everyone for all the suggestions and an extra thanks to Bob for offering to help me grind on it. After reading all the comments I think the best thing to do is strip the engine and radio gear out and buy a new plane. $600 to fix an old plane just doesn't seem worth it, not to mention all my time. I can probably get $200 for it at the Georgetown swapmeet. I asked my wife to get me a JR 9301 2.4gh radio for Christmas, I think I'll change that to a plane and keep my 8103 for another year. She saw Mikes plane at Kingsbury and said " I think you should get a plane like that and fly like that", who am I to argue.
A 40% like Mikes is a bit more of an expense then I would like to take on. Does anyone have a good candidate for my G62, low wing loading and fuse no more then 78" to fit in my truck?

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Old 11-22-2008, 05:10 AM   #26
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Any of the the big 88/89/90 inch 30% percenters mioght make good candidates. Off the top of my head I would look at the Airwild 260, the H9 Yak, the Extreme Flight YAK/Extra. These planes are floaters.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:08 AM   #27
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The G-62 can work good on the Extreme Flight 88 inch Yak. Mine pushed the Vess 23A to 7800 rpm static. This is the RC Ignitions lightened G-62 and E Composites pipe. Batteries wound up on the pipe tunnel just behind the rudder servo. Great wing loading for a 50CC and the G-62 fitted inside the cowl completely.

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Old 11-22-2008, 08:38 AM   #28
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I would look at selling the G62 on RCU..and taking a little more money and get a DL-50. The G62 just is not the right engine on a 3d / IMAC type plane. There is nothing wrong with the engine and those things are rock solid...just not for that kind of plane.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:27 AM   #29
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I think the plane in the video appeared to have enough power for that plane. For the $, seems like a good choice.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:05 AM   #30
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Why does it fly terrible, is this in comparison to a modern plane, just interested. I do agree sell it and buy a lite plane and new engine, or just fly it knowing its a heavy plane?

Its not as easy as everyone suggests as sometimes you have an engine and not the finances to buy both the new plane and new engine so a compromise has to be found. I like the ef vid it just shows a wouldn't be suggested combo does work.


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