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Old 12-05-2008, 07:15 PM   #1
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Okay, I've done quite a bit of reading but still quite don't understand everything.

Read:
Peter Goldsmith's article on trimming
Lots of the "beginners" Threads

But can't find the "rule" book and "judging" book.

Also I've heard that it is required to have a pilot and instrument panel for IMAC competition, True?
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:36 PM   #2
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Okay, I've done quite a bit of reading but still quite don't understand everything.

Read:
Peter Goldsmith's article on trimming
Lots of the "beginners" Threads

But can't find the "rule" book and "judging" book.

Also I've heard that it is required to have a pilot and instrument panel for IMAC competition, True?

http://www.mini-iac.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=90

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Old 12-05-2008, 10:16 PM   #3
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While a pilot and instrument panel are required or a 1% reduction in score before normalized will occur is true.

The rules state that a CD can adjust the rules when they sanction the contest for valid reasons. This waiver or exception must be made public to the competitors no less than 30 days out so that some resemblence of a "standard" contest can be expected as people travel city to city and region to region to compete.

You will find that a majority of contests do not enforce the rule.

My personal opinion as a CD is that there is no justification (valid reason) for not enforcing the rule other than not wanting to. Some say that it takes out the Pilots flying ablities in the score. While I can agree with that, to me the rules don't give the CD the latitude to just get rid of rules they don't like. Instead that is what the Rules Change Committee is for every 2 yrs. The pilot rule was voted on at the last meeting as was voted to stay as is.

For me, I'd prefer the rule to say it is mandatory or you cannot compete, similar to the 10% rule or just get rid of it. Until the rule changes, if I happen to be your CD the rule is enforced. You are best to check with each Contest CD to see if they will be enforcing it.

And so you know....
Basic is exempt from the rule
The pilot must be a 3D lifelike figure (no Homersimpson, Elmo, etc)
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You will find that a majority of contests do not enforce the rule.
I would tend to disagree with this here in the SE...


and wait... what do you mean Elmo isn't life like......??

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Old 12-06-2008, 03:32 PM   #5
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ckeene...you are in luck,, you are just about 2 hrs from Jacksonville Florida... and why is this good luck you may ask?

Well....

The last weekend in January is a great time for a weekend getaway.. and Jacksonville is the place....
http://www.mini-iac.com/EditModule.a...er&ItemId=2056
Come on up to the SouthEast region judging seminar.... soooo many questions will be answered... and life long friends will be made..
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Come up to the seminar and just dig right in... read the rules, but don't let it intimidate you. The folks in IMAC are some of the best I have ever met and more than willing to help out.
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ckeene...you are in luck,, you are just about 2 hrs from Jacksonville Florida... and why is this good luck you may ask?

Well....

The last weekend in January is a great time for a weekend getaway.. and Jacksonville is the place....
http://www.mini-iac.com/EditModule.a...er&ItemId=2056
Come on up to the SouthEast region judging seminar.... soooo many questions will be answered... and life long friends will be made..
I kid you not...

Come up to the seminar and just dig right in... read the rules, but don't let it intimidate you. The folks in IMAC are some of the best I have ever met and more than willing to help out.

ckeene9,

This would be the best thing you could do if time permits. As stated above, you'll learn so much and make good friends at the same time. In April of 2008 I went to Munice IN and it is was well worth the drive.
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:56 PM   #7
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In the SE Region (where Mr. Ckeene9 lives) the rule is inforced. Remember though, basic class does not have this rule.
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That is what I've seen.......the SE and NC region tended to enforce the rule while the SW did not (except mine). I'm not sure about the NW but I plan to lobby for CD's to enforce it
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Does it have to be a scale instrument panel or just something like a full size airplane of any sort might have?
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It just has to be an instrument panel. The rule is very vague (part of the problem).

For instance the rule doesn't state the pilot/dash has to be scale to the size plane. Cheapest way to make a cockpit panel is to find one online that you like and print it out. Then size and cut it to fit your dash. Total cost is just a few cents of paper and ink.
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It just has to be an instrument panel. The rule is very vague (part of the problem).

For instance the rule doesn't state the pilot/dash has to be scale to the size plane. Cheapest way to make a cockpit panel is to find one online that you like and print it out. Then size and cut it to fit your dash. Total cost is just a few cents of paper and ink.

Got a way to make a panel, just wanna make sure it doesn't have to be "scale"
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The intent of the rule is for the plane to appear more scale. Also most (if not all sequences) come from the scale IAC database of manuevers.

If it was me, I'd pride myself in at least making the panel appear with airplane instruments and some resemblance of the plane. Its not always possible to make the instrument panel 100% scale due to the shape inside of canopies
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I'd agree that having the panel is a must and the CD should not "change" the rule as he/she sees fit. It's there for a reason. I've seen the panel/pilot score make all the difference between first and second place in may a contest

As a CD, I certainly enforce the rule. But of you show up at my contest you will only lose the 1% and not be told you cannot fly
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