Plane for DA-170??

[octanehuffer]

Agreed. Just remember, it is possible to come home with an airplane that wasnt what you wanted, but got it because you could. (Impulse)
Even if every manufacturer was at a show with every plane you wanted, you would have a harder time to decide. I spent 2 hours at a show once jumping from booth to booth, trying to decide what to come home with. The guy at the Dave Patrick booth said "Hi" half a dozen times.

[Reza]

Hey Showtime (Jason, owner of TFC),

I haven't seen you putting one together yet but you know let me tell you something I have a problem with you coming online with a fake ID and name and place, bashing DA, me, QQ, JR or anyone else that doesn't give you a free product or sponsor you for that matter on all kinds of different threads!

Why you are this way is beyond me! You even make fake id’s on your own website to bash the products you don’t like! I am not sure if your buddies know all of this but there are not that many people that would like to see disguise!

I hope that one day you start looking at this hobby as a fun thing and actually helping others rather than making fun of them. You are not the celebrity of this hobby in any ways as you told me once! Being a celebrity of this hobby is having the right attitude, helping attitude which is way more important than owning expensive airplanes or hovering all day long!

People such as Quique or Mark or Andrew and many more top notch pilots in the US don’t think of themselves as celebrities.

Grow up! Use these forums in constructive ways! Don’t miss-represent yourself.
You are not Zack Smith or a guy in New York! SleepyC knows this, I know this. It’s been a while since you made that post(http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...tml#post501192) personally attacking me and Quique but we let it go hoping you would stop, apparently you are getting more comfortable doing things of this nature more and more.

You know FG can ban you but nothing can stop you from making another fake id like “happyending” or other stuff to come back. Just try for once to be clean and stop doing these things! Be POSITIVE or soon you will have absolutely no friends!

Now I know that Max Duncan was right!

I am absolutely tired of this. It was time for everyone to know the REAL YOU because you don’t seem to want to change! Next time you decide to bash anyone or company at least use your name, Jason Saulton!

	Quote: Originally Posted by slowroler68
	I have a QQ 120 and yet it flies great but the Quality is not that great. The Toc is a well constructed plane.

[harv]

i also reccomend the PAU edge 540 43%. Macanaw put a 170 in his and he said he really likes it. And its a wicked 3d plane. cant really go wrong.

[Sevans16]

Wow Reza I don't know what to say to all that!!

It was nice to meet you at the DA booth though. Thats one face to screen name, I was able to make last weekend. Thanks for your help on the 12x in other threads.

Octanehuufer: Yeah read the TT Toc Yak which was last on the list, that I bought/returned. I could not talk Rocco out of a demo plane, he was saving them for Toledo.

[octanehuffer]

Wow, Reza sounds pissed. I dont even need to stir the pot on this one.:22a:

[Rabbit Ron]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Reza
	Hey Showtime (Jason, owner of TFC), I haven't seen you putting one together yet but you know let me tell you something I have a problem with you coming online with a fake ID and name and place, bashing DA, me, QQ, JR or anyone else that doesn't give you a free product or sponsor you for that matter on all kinds of different threads! Why you are this way is beyond me! You even make fake id’s on your own website to bash the products you don’t like! I am not sure if your buddies know all of this but there are not that many people that would like to see disguise! I hope that one day you start looking at this hobby as a fun thing and actually helping others rather than making fun of them. You are not the celebrity of this hobby in any ways as you told me once! Being a celebrity of this hobby is having the right attitude, helping attitude which is way more important than owning expensive airplanes or hovering all day long! People such as Quique or Mark or Andrew and many more top notch pilots in the US don’t think of themselves as celebrities. Grow up! Use these forums in constructive ways! Don’t miss-represent yourself. You are not Zack Smith or a guy in New York! SleepyC knows this, I know this. It’s been a while since you made that post(http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...tml#post501192) personally attacking me and Quique but we let it go hoping you would stop, apparently you are getting more comfortable doing things of this nature more and more. You know FG can ban you but nothing can stop you from making another fake id like “happyending” or other stuff to come back. Just try for once to be clean and stop doing these things! Be POSITIVE or soon you will have absolutely no friends! Now I know that Max Duncan was right! I am absolutely tired of this. It was time for everyone to know the REAL YOU because you don’t seem to want to change! Next time you decide to bash anyone or company at least use your name, Jason Saulton!

Wow Reza the 120 QQ is been out for a long time and I have only ever seen you fly it a few times *** Jason has only had his going a few weeks and probably has over 50 flights with it. There is no doubt that the 120 QQ is the closest thing to the 3W Yak in a ARF but the facts are and I can say this because I have 2 120's one I'm building and one in the crate. I can tell you my 102 QQ came out of a different factory.

You seem to for get Jason was the one of the guys that helped you learn to fly when you got into the hobby and it was I will say a different group who cheered you on in Vegas at a FG event when you flew your Demo. Also why you bring max into this. If you have a problem with jason then take it up with him.

[TManiaci]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Reza
	Hey Showtime (Jason, owner of TFC), I haven't seen you putting one together yet but you know let me tell you something I have a problem with you coming online with a fake ID and name and place, bashing DA, me, QQ, JR or anyone else that doesn't give you a free product or sponsor you for that matter on all kinds of different threads! Why you are this way is beyond me! You even make fake id’s on your own website to bash the products you don’t like! I am not sure if your buddies know all of this but there are not that many people that would like to see disguise! I hope that one day you start looking at this hobby as a fun thing and actually helping others rather than making fun of them. You are not the celebrity of this hobby in any ways as you told me once! Being a celebrity of this hobby is having the right attitude, helping attitude which is way more important than owning expensive airplanes or hovering all day long! People such as Quique or Mark or Andrew and many more top notch pilots in the US don’t think of themselves as celebrities. Grow up! Use these forums in constructive ways! Don’t miss-represent yourself. You are not Zack Smith or a guy in New York! SleepyC knows this, I know this. It’s been a while since you made that post personally attacking me and Quique but we let it go hoping you would stop, apparently you are getting more comfortable doing things of this nature more and more. You know FG can ban you but nothing can stop you from making another fake id like “happyending” or other stuff to come back. Just try for once to be clean and stop doing these things! Be POSITIVE or soon you will have absolutely no friends! Now I know that Max Duncan was right! I am absolutely tired of this. It was time for everyone to know the REAL YOU because you don’t seem to want to change! Next time you decide to bash anyone or company at least use your name, Jason Saulton!

Wow, Reza, that was harsh. I can't see the post you refer to, Sleepy deleted it. But, I will say that I have seen Jasons 120, and it is truely not the quality that I expect from QQ Aircraft. All he says is true about it. I have one of the first 86" birds, you got it for me. It was 10 times better quality than Showtime's 120. Yes, it flies as good as any plane in the class, maybe better, but the quality of workmanship truely does suck. Fit and finish were clearly sub-standard for the industry and for the price (before any price reductions). Jason is right to give his honest opinion to someone that is contemplating buying an aircraft. That's what we're here for, to help others. Offering his opinion was his contribution. Because it was not "positive" and dings you and the company you represent, you go off on him? That's not fair. There are several other negative comments made here about issues with other manufacturers, you don't see their rep's in here flaming the critics, do you?

As for the relationship between FG and TFC, that hatchet was buried long ago. You don't need to stir that pot. Jason and Max kissed and made up. There is no lingering rivalry that anyone watching can see or feel. FG is a great place, and we all bounce back and forth and enjoy the fun. It seems you're the only one here making that a big deal... you should be ashamed. This is not the kind of banter I would tolerate from my reps. If I were Mr. Somenzini, you would not have a job with your harsh attacks like this in open forums. If you want to defend and support the company, do it by talking about how they are working on improvements, supporting the customer and recognizing thier weakness... not flaming the critics that are offering thier honest opinions. You, my friend, need to learn the "positive" ways of business.

[DbCoronaFlyer]

I have seen the QQ120 and let me tell you it is not the same quality as the QQ102. The covering is paper thin and tears really easily. It doesn't match the cowl, the cowl is clunky, and a pain to put on. It has no where to install switches because the balsa is to thin on the sides. I can't say how it flies, because I have never flown one. I do however own a TTTOC 40% 260 and it is a bit heavy, but it is built well and will last you. Another great choice would be the Comp-Arf but not the Yak 55. Reza, you should really know what you are talking about before you respond to a post. There was nothing wrong with that post. You are one of the most un-approachable people at OCMA, but if you need help Jason is the first one there to help you. I personally will never buy a QQ because of you.

[Reza]

Hey Ron,

So let me get this straight. He’s making fake ids and goes against the products he doesn’t like or promote such as DA, JR, …because he wants to make sure that if he decided to go back he still can claim his little discounts here and there and his name is clean!? It doesn’t work that way! I respect you and any other person who voices his opinion under his real name, I have ZERO respect for guys like him who show Double personality!

You know I have provided customer service to RC community in the last 3-4 years, mostly for QQAC but also have taken the responsibility to answer emails, threads, PMs on DA, JR Radios, PowerBox, Duralite Products and anything else that I could help with. I have seen customers complaining and took care of them the best I could within my era of responsibility. You know these are real customers that pay the full price out of their hard earned money and they don’t misrepresent themselves.

See what showtime does for his own good!
Why be afraid showing your real you when voicing your opinion if it is legit?
Why trash talking DA, JR and others at the field but when it comes to trash talking online then id gets changed becomes Zak Smith from NY!

Or his comment about Quique and I that got deleted that had no grounds what so ever, why all of that? May be if you are his buddy ask him to get some professional help. This attitude and personality will not get anyone anywhere!

This is a hobby for us and yes it is expensive but no one has the right putting one company in jeopardy for reason of seeking a little more attention and discount here and there from another company!

I hope this gets changed; he steps up to the plate, rethink his attitude and give it a new start!

	Quote: Originally Posted by Rabbit Ron
	Wow Reza the 120 QQ is been out for a long time and I have only ever seen you fly it a few times *** Jason has only had his going a few weeks and probably has over 50 flights with it. There is no doubt that the 120 QQ is the closest thing to the 3W Yak in a ARF but the facts are and I can say this because I have 2 120's one I'm building and one in the crate. I can tell you my 102 QQ came out of a different factory. You seem to for get Jason was the one of the guys that helped you learn to fly when you got into the hobby and it was I will say a different group who cheered you on in Vegas at a FG event when you flew your Demo. Also why you bring max into this. If you have a problem with jason then take it up with him.

[Reza]

You are missing the point TMAN! It's him making fake IDs even on his own site and starting a fight against others products. Wearing different hats as it suits him! I hope you get the point!

	Quote: Originally Posted by TManiaci
	Wow, Reza, that was harsh. I can't see the post you refer to, Sleepy deleted it. But, I will say that I have seen Jasons 120, and it is truely not the quality that I expect from QQ Aircraft. All he says is true about it. I have one of the first 86" birds, you got it for me. It was 10 times better quality than Showtime's 120. Yes, it flies as good as any plane in the class, maybe better, but the quality of workmanship truely does suck. Fit and finish were clearly sub-standard for the industry and for the price (before any price reductions). Jason is right to give his honest opinion to someone that is contemplating buying an aircraft. That's what we're here for, to help others. Offering his opinion was his contribution. Because it was not "positive" and dings you and the company you represent, you go off on him? That's not fair. There are several other negative comments made here about issues with other manufacturers, you don't see their rep's in here flaming the critics, do you? As for the relationship between FG and TFC, that hatchet was buried long ago. You don't need to stir that pot. Jason and Max kissed and made up. There is no lingering rivalry that anyone watching can see or feel. FG is a great place, and we all bounce back and forth and enjoy the fun. It seems you're the only one here making that a big deal... you should be ashamed. This is not the kind of banter I would tolerate from my reps. If I were Mr. Somenzini, you would not have a job with your harsh attacks like this in open forums. If you want to defend and support the company, do it by talking about how they are working on improvements, supporting the customer and recognizing thier weakness... not flaming the critics that are offering thier honest opinions. You, my friend, need to learn the "positive" ways of business.

[DbCoronaFlyer]

He can't show his real name on this site due to the fact that it is banned. He has no problem posting as Showtime if the Flying Giants would let him.

[bodywerks]

	Quote:
	The quality of my 120" was GREAT! Not sure why yours wasn't.... See the pics I posted earlier in the thread, it has been covered excellently (not professionally by any means, but great for an ARF), the paint matches perfectly, and the build was straight and true without any warps or anything. Seth

Sorry Seth, but slowroller is right. I have seen 3 up close and personal and they are junk, at least for the original $2100 price, but I still wouldn't buy one for $1299. The cowl is ridiculous (takes like 22 screws to assemble!!!), the nose looks too long, and it's a tad heavy, and still isn't in a "quick-build" format.
It's great that you are sponsored by them, but your opinion carries less weight than Joe Blow's opinion as a result, because Joe had to pay full boat for his. Heck, he may have even had to pay several hundred dollars more, since they have now dropped the price by like 40% since it was first released. And prices usually drop like that because the product isn't moving, and it usually fails to move as a result of the price being higher than the worth of the product or because the product is just plain junk...

[pitts2b]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	Sorry Seth, but slowroller is right. I have seen 3 up close and personal and they are junk, at least for the original $2100 price, but I still wouldn't buy one for $1299. The cowl is ridiculous (takes like 22 screws to assemble!!!), the nose looks too long, and it's a tad heavy, and still isn't in a "quick-build" format. It's great that you are sponsored by them, but your opinion carries less weight than Joe Blow's opinion as a result, because Joe had to pay full boat for his. Heck, he may have even had to pay several hundred dollars more, since they have now dropped the price by like 40% since it was first released. And prices usually drop like that because the product isn't moving, and it usually fails to move as a result of the price being higher than the worth of the product or because the product is just plain junk...

.......or economy?

[MikeC3D]

:fencing:

[Reza]

You know if he is banned from this site, I would ask the current owner(s) to allow him. I have no pull on their decisions but if he likes to participate he should be more than welcome to!

But I don’t understand that he goes as far as making multiple fake IDs on his own site and all of a sudden comes up, with 3Wvs DA type discussions then comes on with his true id saying, “guys please keep it inline”! Switching personality and ids. This is SICKENING! I bet most of you guys don’t even know it. Anyways, I hope this changes! Again no one will get anywhere with dishonesty not far at least!

	Quote: Originally Posted by DbCoronaFlyer
	He can't show his real name on this site due to the fact that it is banned. He has no problem posting as Showtime if the Flying Giants would let him.