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jimbomilligan · 02-23-2009, 07:51 PM

Look at that rudder against the door in the background!!!! NICE!!!! How hard man do!!! Got himself a set of brass ones!! Oh yeah... almost forgot, DEEP pockets also.

smokin · 02-23-2009, 07:54 PM

thanks for the info snap!

Craven · 02-23-2009, 07:56 PM

Elie,
Thanks for telling me I can hold your TX upside down and putting the maiden on this little b**ch!

I'll tear her up and she'll be smiling when I land!

MODE 1 · 02-24-2009, 07:47 AM

Ya think that dinky little rudder horn will stand up to all the loading that huge rudders going to put on it without bending or worse snapping?????
Dont forget the thread reduces the horns diameter considerably. I would opt for HTS.

snap a saurus · 02-24-2009, 07:59 AM

	Quote: Originally Posted by mikedannielle
	Snap all i can say is?? You are the man can't wait for Nall.

I hope they let me fly it there.

	Quote: Originally Posted by jimbomilligan
	Look at that rudder against the door in the background!!!! NICE!!!! How hard man do!!! Got himself a set of brass ones!! Oh yeah... almost forgot, DEEP pockets also.

Good point Jim, it looks big in the pictures but in person it's huge

	Quote: Originally Posted by smokin
	thanks for the info snap!

You're welcome.

	Quote: Originally Posted by Craven
	Elie, Thanks for telling me I can hold your TX upside down and putting the maiden on this little b**ch! I'll tear her up and she'll be smiling when I land!

Craven, you can do the maiden as Long as you don't drop elbows later on

.

	Quote: Originally Posted by shyte
	Ya think that dinky little rudder horn will stand up to all the loading that huge rudders going to put on it without bending or worse snapping????? Don't forget the thread reduces the horns diameter considerably. I would opt for HTS.

Shyte, what's HTS??
The rudder horn is 10/32, the pushrod is a 6/32 rod inside a carbon fiber tube with tons of Gorilla glue, what else can I do, any ideas!!!!!!
Thanks

Craven · 02-24-2009, 08:01 AM

YIPPPPPPIEEEE......!!!

Maybe I'll start with "The double Snapasaurus"?????

SleepyC · 02-24-2009, 08:45 AM

You know... I think back to to July of 07... just a few years ago and this story was simply untouchable:
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...about-fly.html

Now.... you can buy a 60% airplane that will be UNDER 100 lbs.

Simply WOW....

Can you imagine if the car industry moved that fast?

rcflyguy · 02-24-2009, 09:28 AM

I would like the car industry to just start moving!!

Looks good snap!! can't wait to see it!!

MikeC3D · 02-24-2009, 09:55 AM

We cant forget this one.....http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...-new-post.html

MikeC3D · 02-24-2009, 10:08 AM

Hey Elie....Did you not consider seiko's on a 12v system?

MODE 1 · 02-24-2009, 10:33 AM

HTS = High Tensile Steel but my point was more related to the vast size of the model in relation to the commercial availability of links sold for models far smaller than this one. I dont think the likes of Dubro or Nelson for example have ever conceived a model of your size would ever exist and prolly havent designed a load factor into the product that can deal with what yours will produce. Is it enough to rely on the name of a brand that has excellent products designed for lesser size models? Lets face it yours blurs the line between full size and model doesnt it? Looks like you have quite a bit of bare studding distance between the rudder and ball link connection and thats where it will stress most. You could sheath the bare studding in CF tube filled with epoxy or replace the stud with the same dia but using HTS (easiest option) just like the hex bolts used for ball links which are the same high grade shear resistant material and not some malleable low grade CS. Dont mean to make you edgy on this. Guess we are all eager to see this project come off flawlessly as you are and would hate to have sat here thinking what i mentioned but not have said if the worse situ happened ya know?
HTS studding wont add weight to any degree but it sure would be a fit and forget solution.
Full threaded hex bolts of the same size as the studding cut down would be perfect. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious

Phxsparky12 · 02-24-2009, 01:19 PM

Better safe than sorry with this amount of investment. All of the videos i've seen of Snap flying is he is not easy on an airplane and I don't see this one being any different.

**Cracky** · 02-24-2009, 01:30 PM

I think he said something about this one being waterproof and the pond will not win this year....whatever that was about...

JoeAirPort · 02-24-2009, 02:11 PM

He could get those big bush wheels and it would probably float....

~SnApRoLl · 02-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Elie,
If you ever bring your 60%er to Orlando, I'll trade you my Step Mother in law for a flight or better yet just a spot on one of the wings to drool on!!

That plane is looking good sir!! Keep up the good work!

Shawn

02-23-2009, 07:51 PM	#226
jimbomilligan Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 33 Posts: 1,239	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Look at that rudder against the door in the background!!!! NICE!!!! How hard man do!!! Got himself a set of brass ones!! Oh yeah... almost forgot, DEEP pockets also. Last edited by jimbomilligan; 02-23-2009 at 07:56 PM.

02-23-2009, 07:54 PM	#227
smokin Team Aerotech R/C Models Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: clinton, ia. usa Age: 37 Posts: 5,149	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? thanks for the info snap! __________________ www.AEROTECHRCMODELS.com Nothing flies like a HyperLITE!!! Special thanks to: *Team HITEC* Cactus Aviation

02-23-2009, 07:56 PM	#228
Craven Bow to the King! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amelia, Ohio Age: 50 Posts: 10,838 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Elie, Thanks for telling me I can hold your TX upside down and putting the maiden on this little b**ch! I'll tear her up and she'll be smiling when I land!

02-24-2009, 07:47 AM	#229
MODE 1 Has moved on Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,153	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Ya think that dinky little rudder horn will stand up to all the loading that huge rudders going to put on it without bending or worse snapping????? Dont forget the thread reduces the horns diameter considerably. I would opt for HTS.

02-24-2009, 08:01 AM	#231
Craven Bow to the King! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amelia, Ohio Age: 50 Posts: 10,838 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? YIPPPPPPIEEEE......!!! Maybe I'll start with "The double Snapasaurus"?????

02-24-2009, 08:45 AM	#232
SleepyC Thanks for the Support! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA, OH, Aurora Age: 40 Posts: 22,071 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? You know... I think back to to July of 07... just a few years ago and this story was simply untouchable: http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...about-fly.html Now.... you can buy a 60% airplane that will be UNDER 100 lbs. Simply WOW.... Can you imagine if the car industry moved that fast? __________________ Get the most current up-to-date R/C modeling news: www.flyinggiants.com www.rcgroups.com www.crackroll.com www.rccars.com

02-24-2009, 09:28 AM	#233
rcflyguy workin on rollers!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Findlay, OH Posts: 1,279	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? I would like the car industry to just start moving!! Looks good snap!! can't wait to see it!!

02-24-2009, 09:55 AM	#234
MikeC3D 3D JUNKIE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SanAntonio,TX Age: 40 Posts: 3,386	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? We cant forget this one.....http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...-new-post.html

02-24-2009, 10:08 AM	#235
MikeC3D 3D JUNKIE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SanAntonio,TX Age: 40 Posts: 3,386	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Hey Elie....Did you not consider seiko's on a 12v system?

02-24-2009, 10:33 AM	#236
MODE 1 Has moved on Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,153	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? HTS = High Tensile Steel but my point was more related to the vast size of the model in relation to the commercial availability of links sold for models far smaller than this one. I dont think the likes of Dubro or Nelson for example have ever conceived a model of your size would ever exist and prolly havent designed a load factor into the product that can deal with what yours will produce. Is it enough to rely on the name of a brand that has excellent products designed for lesser size models? Lets face it yours blurs the line between full size and model doesnt it? Looks like you have quite a bit of bare studding distance between the rudder and ball link connection and thats where it will stress most. You could sheath the bare studding in CF tube filled with epoxy or replace the stud with the same dia but using HTS (easiest option) just like the hex bolts used for ball links which are the same high grade shear resistant material and not some malleable low grade CS. Dont mean to make you edgy on this. Guess we are all eager to see this project come off flawlessly as you are and would hate to have sat here thinking what i mentioned but not have said if the worse situ happened ya know? HTS studding wont add weight to any degree but it sure would be a fit and forget solution. Full threaded hex bolts of the same size as the studding cut down would be perfect. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious Last edited by MODE 1; 02-24-2009 at 11:50 AM.

02-24-2009, 01:19 PM	#237
Phxsparky12 Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 447	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Better safe than sorry with this amount of investment. All of the videos i've seen of Snap flying is he is not easy on an airplane and I don't see this one being any different.

02-24-2009, 01:30 PM	#238
Cracky WHATS CRACKALAKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wentzville, MO Age: 35 Posts: 9,297 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? I think he said something about this one being waterproof and the pond will not win this year....whatever that was about... __________________ Cracky get the good stuff: 3D HOBBY SHOP~FROMECO~SMART-FLY Check my For Sale items HERE.

02-24-2009, 02:11 PM	#239
JoeAirPort Obsessed Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 47 Posts: 5,509	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? He could get those big bush wheels and it would probably float.... __________________ Videos: 88" EF Yak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynkFiYZOS7k 88" EF Yak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1SD21qAJoA 110" EF Yak http://www.youtube.com/user/Vortran?.../5/UyaC9xGFKTk

02-24-2009, 02:44 PM	#240
~SnApRoLl TEAM FEARLESS MARYLAND Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southern Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 790	Re: 60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ? Elie, If you ever bring your 60%er to Orlando, I'll trade you my Step Mother in law for a flight or better yet just a spot on one of the wings to drool on!! That plane is looking good sir!! Keep up the good work! Shawn __________________ 20.3lb Comp-Arf 2.3m Extra 330l with a DA-85 H9 Tango .40 with an O.S. 55AX Park Zone Typhoon 2 3D E-Flite Blade MCX for wife and kid chasing http://www.freewebs.com/team_fearless/index.htm Team Fearless Official Site http://www.teamfearlessrc.com/

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