60% BH EXTRA, HOW BIG IS TOO BIG ?

[SleepyC]

I think the fact that this plane is under 100 lbs takes the blurred line of full scale and model away.
A full scale plane is 1500+ lbs... This one is under 100.
Way different strengths in materials needed.

[smokin]

	Quote: Originally Posted by rcflyguy
	I would like the car industry to just start moving!! Looks good snap!! can't wait to see it!!

i second that motion! i need the car business to pick up as well. the market is reflecting a pick up that hasn't happened as of yet by having the wholesale values go up about $2000 a car in the last 30 days! that doesn't make our lives any easier when the retail amounts have stayed the same!!!! i am literally paying more now for a vehicle on the wholesale side than i was retail selling that same rig for a month ago!!!! NOT GOOD!

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Craven
	YIPPPPPPIEEEE......!!! Maybe I'll start with "The double Snapasaurus"?????

Craven, no way double Snapasaurus, are you crazy!!!!!!!!!! I will allow you only One snapasaurus, take it or leave it

	Quote: Originally Posted by SleepyC
	You know... I think back to to July of 07... just a few years ago and this story was simply untouchable: http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...about-fly.html Now.... you can buy a 60% airplane that will be UNDER 100 lbs. Simply WOW.... Can you imagine if the car industry moved that fast?

Agree huge improvement.

	Quote: Originally Posted by rcflyguy
	I would like the car industry to just start moving!! Looks good snap!! can't wait to see it!!

The car industry is slow now but enough to buy me a 60%

	Quote: Originally Posted by MikeC3D
	Hey Elie....Did you not consider seiko's on a 12v system?

Mike, I thought about the Seikos say 2 per aileron, 1 per elevator and 2 on the rudder but instead I went with the reliable and proven JR system, I have 3 planes with Seikos on the rudder with no issues but never seen them used anywhere else.

[flying skunks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by snap a saurus
	Mike, I thought about the Seikos say 2 per aileron, 1 per elevator and 2 on the rudder but instead I went with the reliable and proven JR system, I have 3 planes with Seikos on the rudder with no issues but never seen them used anywhere else.

Elie , I worked on a RPV project and used them everywhere , loved it , and plenty of power on the RPV with a 200lb payload ..used an Odyssey Battery for power ...

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by shyte
	HTS = High Tensile Steel but my point was more related to the vast size of the model in relation to the commercial availability of links sold for models far smaller than this one. I dont think the likes of Dubro or Nelson for example have ever conceived a model of your size would ever exist and prolly havent designed a load factor into the product that can deal with what yours will produce. Is it enough to rely on the name of a brand that has excellent products designed for lesser size models? Lets face it yours blurs the line between full size and model doesnt it? Looks like you have quite a bit of bare studding distance between the rudder and ball link connection and thats where it will stress most. You could sheath the bare studding in CF tube filled with epoxy or replace the stud with the same dia but using HTS (easiest option) just like the hex bolts used for ball links which are the same high grade shear resistant material and not some malleable low grade CS. Dont mean to make you edgy on this. Guess we are all eager to see this project come off flawlessly as you are and would hate to have sat here thinking what i mentioned but not have said if the worse situ happened ya know? HTS studding wont add weight to any degree but it sure would be a fit and forget solution. Full threaded hex bolts of the same size as the studding cut down would be perfect. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious

shyte, thanks for the advice, I will try to locate HTS rod to use, not a big deal to replace it, I think the weak link is the dowel, a friend even recommended 2 dowels with 2 servos on One and 3 on the other, I will say this I am not going to fly this plane the way have flown others, I plan to be safe and easy on the plane, at least at the beginning, I will give it the old fashion test on the ground before I test fly, better to brake on the ground than in the air.

	Quote: Originally Posted by Phxsparky12
	Better safe than sorry with this amount of investment. All of the videos i've seen of Snap flying is he is not easy on an airplane and I don't see this one being any different.

Phxsparky, believe me I respect that plane and it's limits, this is no 40% and I know my responsibility, I will be smooth and easy on the sticks until I know the plane

	Quote: Originally Posted by Cracky
	I think he said something about this one being waterproof and the pond will not win this year....whatever that was about...

Cracky, waterproof, no, not needed, yes the plane will win this year

	Quote: Originally Posted by JoeAirPort
	He could get those big bush wheels and it would probably float....

Joe, or I will land on the water and takeoff.

	Quote: Originally Posted by ~SnApRoLl
	Elie, If you ever bring your 60%er to Orlando, I'll trade you my Step Mother in law for a flight or better yet just a spot on one of the wings to drool on!! That plane is looking good sir!! Keep up the good work! Shawn

Shawn, how can we trade without pics, I have posted mine now your turn

Thanks, you gotta see it in person, pics don't do it justice, I plan to do a lot of traveling next year
not sure about Orlando though.

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by SleepyC
	I think the fact that this plane is under 100 lbs takes the blurred line of full scale and model away. A full scale plane is 1500+ lbs... This one is under 100. Way different strengths in materials needed.

Sleepy, I am thinking of making the weight 60% also

	Quote: Originally Posted by smokin
	i second that motion! i need the car business to pick up as well. the market is reflecting a pick up that hasn't happened as of yet by having the wholesale values go up about $2000 a car in the last 30 days! that doesn't make our lives any easier when the retail amounts have stayed the same!!!! i am literally paying more now for a vehicle on the wholesale side than i was retail selling that same rig for a month ago!!!! NOT GOOD!

True.

	Quote: Originally Posted by flying skunks
	Elie , I worked on a RPV project and used them everywhere , loved it , and plenty of power on the RPV with a 200lb payload ..used an Odyssey Battery for power ...

Donnie, I have seen the 105s in a full scale ultralight.

[66stang]

Snap at Nall when it's really sunny out, can I lay under the wing for shade?

[Craven]

Alrighty then!

It will be the infamous "SNAPASAURUS" right after takeoff!

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 66stang
	Snap at Nall when it's really sunny out, can I lay under the wing for shade?

Stang, I think you maybe able to stand

	Quote: Originally Posted by Craven
	Alrighty then! It will be the infamous "SNAPASAURUS" right after takeoff!

Much better now and I will give you a sticker.

[GremlinX]

Man.. sure is purdy... but you are over 1/2 there... just go full scale.. LOL

[Ricky Bobby]

, I will say this I am not going to fly this plane the way have flown others, I plan to be safe and easy on the plane, at least at the beginning, I will give it the old fashion test on the ground before I test fly, better to brake on the ground than in the air.
be smooth sticks until I know the plane

Now thats funny

[flying skunks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by REM
	, I will say this I am not going to fly this plane the way have flown others, I plan to be safe and easy on the plane, at least at the beginning, I will give it the old fashion test on the ground before I test fly, better to brake on the ground than in the air. be smooth sticks until I know the plane Now thats funny

Snap's easy on the sticks is NOT what regular people call easy ......

[smokin]

yeah...

hey elie... who you gonna have fly it in a straight line for you to see if it can???? LOL

[~SnApRoLl]

	Quote: Originally Posted by snap a saurus
	Shawn, how can we trade without pics, I have posted mine now your turn

Elie,
Here is a picture of my step mother in law that I am willing to trade for a flight on your 60%er.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...ng_breasts.gif

Enjoy!

Shawn

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by GremlinX
	Man.. sure is purdy... but you are over 1/2 there... just go full scale.. LOL

I can't find One that will hover.

	Quote: Originally Posted by REM
	, I will say this I am not going to fly this plane the way have flown others, I plan to be safe and easy on the plane, at least at the beginning, I will give it the old fashion test on the ground before I test fly, better to brake on the ground than in the air. be smooth sticks until I know the plane Now thats funny

Rick, you don't believe me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Quote: Originally Posted by flying skunks
	Snap's easy on the sticks is NOT what regular people call easy ......

Donnie, I said easy, I didn't say how long I am going to be easy.

	Quote: Originally Posted by smokin
	yeah... hey elie... who you gonna have fly it in a straight line for you to see if it can???? LOL

Matt, you better be practicing mode 1.

	Quote: Originally Posted by ~SnApRoLl
	Elie, Here is a picture of my step mother in law that I am willing to trade for a flight on your 60%er. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...ng_breasts.gif Enjoy! Shawn

Shawn, your step mother in law is ugly, you can keep her.