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[hobbyflyer520]

Quick question for you guys. I am just about ready to get my Lanier Extra 330 with the 94" WS up and running. The only thing I need is the engine. Was leaning towards the DA-85, or perhaps a DL-111. Is the 111 to much engine for this frame? I plan on flying IMAC with it. Thanks in advance

[imhooked]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ibanezex718
	Ok, so I finally got her all put together and put her in the air. Everything is great, flies like a dream. My only question is on the break-in for a dle-55 how much fuel at 32:1 should I run before I should change to 40:1 or 50:1?

I ran about 4 gallons through mine, nothing scientific mind you, just what I had mixed up. I then switched over to 40:1 Red Line. No problems here.

[canavanbob]

I have had more electronic ignition switches go bad than I have throttle servos go bad. I have both on some planes.

[Al Lewis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ibanezex718
	Ok, so I finally got her all put together and put her in the air. Everything is great, flies like a dream. My only question is on the break-in for a dle-55 how much fuel at 32:1 should I run before I should change to 40:1 or 50:1?

Check with your engine distributor. Different distributors have different requirements to keep your warranty.

[ibanezex718]

So I have a bit of difficulty starting the motor. Once the motor starts it runs fine. My thought is that I've used 5/32" tubing on the carburetor and 3/32" on the rest, and I'm using a cm-6 plug. Any thoughts or opinions would be helpful.

[Al Lewis]

I usually run 1/8" tubing on everything but even so it sometimes takes a bit of flipping to get the fuel up in the lines to the carb. After that it's usually good. Make sure all of your lines are sealed well. Some guys have even gone so far as to solder the little hole shut in the choke plate to get more draw.

[castlebravo]

	Quote: Originally Posted by imhooked
	I am using the 7C with dual elavator servos....no problems there. Just FYI. Just run off of channels 2 and 5 and use the ailavator function on your radio as described on page, I believe, 45 in the manual. Easy enough. Also, instead of using an ignition cut off, you can also just use the throttle cut function on your radio. Works just as well.

Depends on which "7C" you have......72mhz 7C does not have Ailevator function built in.....2.4ghz 7C does.


Also...you need a cutoff method other than throttle cut or closing the choke. Gas engines vibrate more than glow and I have seen and had throttle servo's fail. With a stiff linkage, this vibration is transmitted directly to the servo causing more wear than with a glow fueled engine......and as luck would have it.....they almost always fail at some high setting with a full tank......its really fun flying a airplane around at 3/4 throttle for 30 minutes!

CB

[castlebravo]

	Quote: Originally Posted by hobbyflyer520
	Quick question for you guys. I am just about ready to get my Lanier Extra 330 with the 94" WS up and running. The only thing I need is the engine. Was leaning towards the DA-85, or perhaps a DL-111. Is the 111 to much engine for this frame? I plan on flying IMAC with it. Thanks in advance

I'm currently building a Lanier 94" Edge. I put a BME 100 in mine and it is a pretty tight fit. I had to cut a couple of holes in the cowl for the spark plug caps and I know this engine is not as wide as my DA 100 (same dimensions as the DL). You will also probably have to compensate for all that nose weight with the DL. I would personally go with the DA 85....almost the same power as the DL 100 at less weight and you wont have to butcher the cowl as much. Just my 2 cents

CB

[ibanezex718]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Al Lewis
	I usually run 1/8" tubing on everything but even so it sometimes takes a bit of flipping to get the fuel up in the lines to the carb. After that it's usually good. Make sure all of your lines are sealed well. Some guys have even gone so far as to solder the little hole shut in the choke plate to get more draw.

Everything is well sealed and zip tied. I'm sure it will get a little better as it breaks in a little bit more. It just seems weird that I have to choke and flip it as many times to get that fuel back up through the lines.

[Al Lewis]

Yeah, it pisses me off some days too! LOL

[hobbyflyer520]

thanks, thats pretty much what I was thinking.

[ibanezex718]

Well if I'm not the only one then I'll just leave it

[Rishelman]

For what it's worth.....my DL 50 took a lot of flipping when it was brand new. Even after a half dozen flights it started getting easier. Then I leaned it out a little, and it got way easier. After a gallon of breakin mix, then switching to 50:1 and leaning it out for a clean running condition, it pops on the choke in about 4 flips. Choke off, 4-5 more flips, and shes runnin'. The stock recomended settings for the low screw was so rich, I had to idle the thing about 2500 rpm just to keep it running. Also, the idle trim needed to be higher than I expected to start it. Make sure your plane is secure, and try bumping your idle up a bit, and see if it doesn't start a little easier.
Just what I've learned. Hope it helps.

Rishelman

[ibanezex718]

Thanks for all you're help. I've ran just about a gallon through her on 32:1 and she's already starting easier than before. I'm going to run about another 3 gallons at 32:1 and I'll move to 50:1.

[Al Lewis]

If you can get it try Belray H1R @ 40:1. You'll have to run a little rich but it will keep your engine cooler and cleaner.