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Old 03-10-2009, 12:14 PM   #1
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Default 50 % Laird Super Solution

In the framing stages and need to know what the bottom wing incidence is on this plane,building from blown up Pepino plans and there is no reference to the bottom wing, stab is +3,top wing is +4 at root and +3 at tip. Anybody have a clue?
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:53 PM   #2
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I have a buddy that is building a 40% Super Solution. He will be very interested in this thread! He is working with Bob Trueworthy in drawing up the plans and the design.
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Can't answer any of your questions, but subscribed. This is one of the best of the Golden Age racers. You doing the green & yellow paint scheme?

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Old 03-10-2009, 03:31 PM   #4
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In the framing stages and need to know what the bottom wing incidence is on this plane,building from blown up Pepino plans and there is no reference to the bottom wing, stab is +3,top wing is +4 at root and +3 at tip. Anybody have a clue?
I'll post a couple pictures of mine tonight, which is set at 0 incidence.

With your Stab at +3, your Top Wing at +4, I would say set your Bottom Wing at +3.
My reasoning is this; I would want the Top Wing to stall first and with this set up, your Top Wing would have a resultant of +1 incidence. Just my 2 cents ....
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:17 AM   #5
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I'll post a couple pictures of mine tonight, which is set at 0 incidence.

With your Stab at +3, your Top Wing at +4, I would say set your Bottom Wing at +3.
My reasoning is this; I would want the Top Wing to stall first and with this set up, your Top Wing would have a resultant of +1 incidence. Just my 2 cents ....

I have always given at least a half degree difference on any bipe.I like a little mush before I stall.The plans seem to be approx +2 for the bottom wing which is why I question it. Thats 2 degrees difference at the root,seems to be a bit much. Keep it coming though all the info I can get betters my decision making.
I would like to know what the other incidences are on your plane?
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Spoke with BoB a couple of weeks ago,he seemed very interested in my project and did mention the one he is working on,he wanted to go 50% but couldn't talk him in to it.
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Yes it will be the Veridian green and sun yellow,haven't decided on finish.
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In the framing stages and need to know what the bottom wing incidence is on this plane,building from blown up Pepino plans and there is no reference to the bottom wing, stab is +3,top wing is +4 at root and +3 at tip. Anybody have a clue?
Reposting still need to talk some more on this. Any discussion would be greatly processed.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:18 PM   #9
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I'll post a couple pictures of mine tonight, which is set at 0 incidence.

With your Stab at +3, your Top Wing at +4, I would say set your Bottom Wing at +3.
My reasoning is this; I would want the Top Wing to stall first and with this set up, your Top Wing would have a resultant of +1 incidence. Just my 2 cents ....


I agree but really wanted more discussion, once its set I will only have a limited amount of adjustment to make any changes via flyin wires, Still waiting on those pics though zzw.
This has been an incredible project so far I have both wings mostly done, 3 piece bottom,2 piece top and am about ready to mount to fuse. Also have a guy in PA. doing the same project which will help both of us to bounce ideas around.He will be designing the gear for us and says he can provide me with a set also.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:40 PM   #10
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Do you have any pics of what this plane will look like when it is done?
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:52 PM   #11
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Do you have any pics of what this plane will look like when it is done?
Doing the replica at the air venture museum.
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You dont see alot of those. How can that guy see to fly. That looks like a panic attack waiting to happen.
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:41 PM   #13
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Back in 1931 they did'nt fly off of runways so much as just an open field. This was the Bendix winner with Doolittle in the cockpit, all you needed to see was the pylon coming up which is why the small window is there. But I bet they had a good time flying the replica because runways are all we use nowadays,just gotta watch that grass line and hope she stays straight?
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vmceachern,

I actually forgot to post the pictures, sorry. The Stab and Lower Wing are at 0 and the Upper Wing is -1 incidence. Has a G-26 with Elec. Ign. and Mejzlik 18X6.
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Old 03-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #15
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vmceachern,

I actually forgot to post the pictures, sorry. The Stab and Lower Wing are at 0 and the Upper Wing is -1 incidence. Has a G-26 with Elec. Ign. and Mejzlik 18X6.
Beautiful bird !,Thanks for the info,I'm pretty set on matching the 3+ on the stab to the bottom wing.With the 4+ top wing center section, I think this will work out well for a nice landing bird.
What kit,plans did you build yours from?
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