airframe choice

[fonzegator]

Hi guys i wanna get a new airframe... but im stuck between the aeroworks 100cc edge540, extreme flight 110" yak or the xtreme composite edge 540...

i will be flying pretty hard so i would really appreciate any input or suggestions... thank u

[reyn3545]

I had the Xtreme Composites 100cc 540... nice looking plane, but a lot of rudder-aileron and rudder-elevator coupling. It's fast, very long glide path, and it does fly slow very well, but coupling is an issue in anything but regular forward flight. They don't sell them in the USA anymore, but there are a lot of people still flying them. Once you get the coupling mixed out, it's not a bad plane.

In comparison to the CompARF, the XF a distant second place. Some of the finishing details that CompARF takes, (like installing the canopy mounting tabs, drilling the holes in the stab and tube and mounting the blind nuts in the stab tube, etc.. are not done by XF.

As for the other planes you mentioned... I do like the Aeroworks line. I've owned 3 or 4, each has been very fun to fly. They aren't the lightest planes on the planet, but they are good quality, straight flying planes. Rocco (owner) is very helpful and if there's a problem, they always do the right thing. Several IMAC pilots fly Aeroworks.

ExtremeFlight is headquartered about 4 miles from my house... a great owner (Chris) who is very active in the hobby, and he builds very light, good flying planes. I would say that you'd be happier with one of his planes if you're at the "experienced" level... there's always a trade-off between light and sturdy, and his would be on the "light" end of the curve. So, if you're comfortable with getting a plane up and down (sounds like you are), and you're looking for a good 3D or IMAC plane (his planes have won several in both classes).. you might take a long look at ExtremeFlight.

In general, if you're looking for a plane with less mixing required... go with a Yak over an Edge. The Yaks have a mid-wing design, so there's about the same weight/airfoil above and below the wing. Rudder design is pretty critical on a Yak, and ExtremeFlight does a great job of balancing the amount of rudder resistance above and below the thrust line.

OK Everyone... tell me how wrong I am.....

[STLAV8R]

Extreme Flight 110" Yak, hands down!

[fonzegator]

ok..... i guess BVM is out.... well i been watchng some build threads here on the aeroworks planes and there are some guys that come in weighing 28#-29# with a 3W in it... im using a 3w 106 and i think 28# is good on a plane with a 3w in it....but i also like the EF yak....but the prob with singapore is that we do not have nicely trimmed grass lands to fly or black tops to land.... i am comfortable bringing a plane up and down... just worriedon how lightly built yhe landing gear on the EF yak is....

[fonzegator]

Hi Guys... i have decided to go with the Pilot RC YAK 54... beautiful looking plane and i like the colour scheme... also the construction looks great!

here is a link....http://www.pilot-rc.com/ProductShow.aspx?id=62

[greg e]

You will be very happy with your choice. I have the same plane with the DLE-111 and cans from Tony and it was a great deal. It flys like it's on rails with very little mixing. I can't wait to see you maiden it. Good luck.

[fonzegator]

Thank u Greg... may i know wat your plane comes in weighing at and your setup is?

[greg e]

Fonzegator I am thinking about 26 to 27 I have not put it on the scales yet but it fly's light. I let Sensei fly it and he said it fly's like his 40% . I have pulled the throttle back to idle and full up elevator and it did not rock just harriered rock solid. I am using 1 8711 on the rudder pull pull and 1 8711 on each aileron and elevator and have not any problems with blow back or fade of the controls. The most part that I like about it with the cans it is not loud at all very quiet. if you get it with the DLE-111 cet the cans too you will be very happy you did.

[danielph]

EF Yak 54 all the way! ! !

[bodywerks]

Of the choices the ef 110 is your only option, imo, because the AW Edge isn't available yet and the Extreme Edge is junk.
And the EF110 Yak looks and flies awesome so you can't go wrong with it.

[fonzegator]

well.. i already purchased the Pilot RC Yak 54... and froom videos i seen... it flies great... i also agree the EF yak is great... but...i will try this one first.... i like the colour scheme.... plus the hinging is already done... I HATE HINGING!....:P

[fonzegator]

	Quote: Originally Posted by greg e
	Fonzegator I am thinking about 26 to 27 I have not put it on the scales yet but it fly's light. I let Sensei fly it and he said it fly's like his 40% . I have pulled the throttle back to idle and full up elevator and it did not rock just harriered rock solid. I am using 1 8711 on the rudder pull pull and 1 8711 on each aileron and elevator and have not any problems with blow back or fade of the controls. The most part that I like about it with the cans it is not loud at all very quiet. if you get it with the DLE-111 cet the cans too you will be very happy you did.

Hi greg,
yeah im goin with 01 8711 on the rudder too... well im not getting a DLE111... i already have a 3W 106 and i dunt see the need for 2 100cc class engines...plus... i like the sound of a 3W better... i just hope it dont come out @ 31# like my previous plane

[gapple12]

Tony's planes come light. Just go with the lighter equipment and you wont have a problem. Greg did one servo per wing which will also drop half a pound when you add it all up. Good luck, keep us posted. Do you know the weight of your 3W?

Drew

[crazyjoe]

	Quote: Originally Posted by fonzegator
	Hi greg, yeah im goin with 01 8711 on the rudder too... well im not getting a DLE111... i already have a 3W 106 and i dunt see the need for 2 100cc class engines...plus... i like the sound of a 3W better... i just hope it dont come out @ 31# like my previous plane

Good engine choice. You get what you pay for. Dont worry about the weight. I built a katana standard build 27.5 lbs. Hovers at 1/3 stick here at 7000 ft elevation. I dont agree with the one servo on these big ailerons for longevity. But many have done it with success.

[gapple12]

Well, I have yet to fly a 35% with one servo per wing, but these servos these days have plenty of torque. I have not heard of any issues doing this, but what I did on mine is remove the old servo bays and place one in the middle since mine is uncovered. Hope if works out for me, have yet to fly it.

Another way to remove weight on these planes is the motor box hardware. They include a metal L bracket for each side and many nuts and bolts to attach it. I would toss it. I simply put 3/4 inch triangle hard balsa in all areas and the strength is incredible. Check out my build thread for the pics. Hope this helps. There are many ways to lighten these planes even more if weight is an issues, but I imagine you will be fine either way.

Drew

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