At what level does the freestyle program come into effect?

[Curare]

Sportsman, intermediate? Advanced? Unlimited?

Guys, i'm tentatively dipping my toe back into the IMAC arena, and am curious about the freestyle program.

My thoughts are, if freestyle doesn't come into play untill unlimited, I should be basic my choice of aircraft on the level of my flying, i.e. something that snaps well but doesn't need to to do 3D, but if it's applies across the board, I'll change my descision.


Any help on the matter?

[Royster]

Sportsman and above

[sweetpea]

Actually Freestyle isn't part of any IMAC precision yet. So far its a seperate class that you can fly in if you chose to and the scoring isn't reflected in the sequence portion. The TAS is invite only and typically required you to be advanced or higher but with today's foamies and sims that has slipped to lower classes (for good reason)

INMHO it should be sportsman or higher for the everyday IMAC contest. Basic pilots are learning the basics, no need to introduce them to more than that.

[Karmann34]

I'm in Basic and I have seen more than a few other Basic pilots tear it up in Freestyle. Not to counterdict anything you guys are saying. Just that there are some freaking talented thumbs out there these days. I always look forward to the freestyle at the end of the events.
Pretty much every pilot I have seen that flys freestyle does so with a completely different plane. But that is not the rule either as I've seen a couple guys pull perfect IMAC moves and win 1st place with 40% planes set on 3D rates???
Maybe it's different Down Under as to what level the pilot are allowed to fly in freestyle??

[3D-Seth]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Curare
	Sportsman, intermediate? Advanced? Unlimited? Guys, i'm tentatively dipping my toe back into the IMAC arena, and am curious about the freestyle program. My thoughts are, if freestyle doesn't come into play untill unlimited, I should be basic my choice of aircraft on the level of my flying, i.e. something that snaps well but doesn't need to to do 3D, but if it's applies across the board, I'll change my descision. Any help on the matter?

You can go to an IMAC contest, and fly any class WITHOUT flying freestyle. Its an option, not a requirement. I look at it as a totally different "contest" than the sequence stuff.

Seth

[harv]

Ive seen several basic piltos do freestyle. just because the pilot may be new to IMAC tht doesnt mean he isnt able to huck. Plus its not mandatory so dont feel pressured to fly. unless you can.

[Curare]

Actually, I'm looking to do something a little different, I'm a bit over the usual CAP's extras edges and sukhois, and am htinking about something long and low, still scale but more in tune with a pattern plane perhaps.


As you know pattern planes don't huck too well, so if it was a consideration to be able to huck, then what I'm thinking of isn't going to cut it.

[sweetpea]

I believe the rule for freestyle is that it must still fit in the class you are flying for IMAC. So basic would be anything and other classes would be the 10% rule.

[Curare]

Hang on, you've confused me, I'm not looking to redesign the wheel. AS the IMAC rules state the aircraft must be a scale model, and the deviation should be no more than 10%.

Rather than stick with the existing IAC style aircraft, I'm looking at other planes, that perhaps fit the bill a little more to my style of flying. As I'm only in intermediate class the sequences require an aircraft that can track, snap and roll. If I'm not reuquired to do the freestyle program, I don't need massive control surfaces and a short tail moment to help me huck.

Yeah?

[Howie]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Curare
	Hang on, you've confused me, I'm not looking to redesign the wheel. AS the IMAC rules state the aircraft must be a scale model, and the deviation should be no more than 10%.

The full size must have competed in IAC competition.

	Quote: Originally Posted by Curare
	Rather than stick with the existing IAC style aircraft, I'm looking at other planes, that perhaps fit the bill a little more to my style of flying. As I'm only in intermediate class the sequences require an aircraft that can track, snap and roll. If I'm not reuquired to do the freestyle program, I don't need massive control surfaces and a short tail moment to help me huck. Yeah?

As stated above freestyle is not part of the IMAC score. If offered, it is a separate competition. (Only a small number of Australian IMAC events offer freestyle.)

In Australia the ASAA does have the rule that only sportsman and above can compete in freestyle. From memory this came about after some "exciting" freestyle where the judges had to jump out of their chairs.

[Curare]

Cool bananas. I' might continue with my design work then.


Acutally, while we're on the subject. Is there any reasoning for the abundance of extras caps and sukois? I remember the only one of the bunch that I liked flying was my old giles, this going back a few years now, but I had a Cap 232, too snappy, e 300 (bolly) that just felt heavy, and not very accurate, I flew a sig SU 26 and found it to track almost as bad as my ultimate, and my G202 which was the best of lot. Is it just availability that sees the same planes at the field? Or am I missing something?

[Bam Bam]

In Australia the ASAA does have the rule that only sportsman and above can compete in freestyle. From memory this came about after some "exciting" freestyle where the judges had to jump out of their chairs.



would have like to see this!

[TROYS PIT-BITCH]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Bam Bam
	In Australia the ASAA does have the rule that only sportsman and above can compete in freestyle. From memory this came about after some "exciting" freestyle where the judges had to jump out of their chairs. would have like to see this!

Yeah don't think you would have, was not very cool.
Also a way of thinking about it, if a pilot is in basic and wants to fly freestyle cause they think they have the skills, why are they in basic?

[harv]

	Quote: Originally Posted by TROYS PIT-BITCH
	Yeah don't think you would have, was not very cool. Also a way of thinking about it, if a pilot is in basic and wants to fly freestyle cause they think they have the skills, why are they in basic?

myabe because there precision skills arent up to par. or its ther first few contests and they wanna see if they like the precision part of it.

[exeter_acres]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Howie
	The full size must have competed in IAC competition.

If using the IMAC rules than this isn't entirely true...

from the rules

	Quote:
	3.1: The events accommodate aerobatic monoplanes and biplanes which are replicas of types known to have competed in International Aerobatic Club (IAC) competition, or replicas of types known to be capable of aerobatic competition within the airspace know as the ―Box.‖