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Old 09-01-2009, 08:22 PM   #1
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Help! Starting 3D

Hi everyone. I'm starting 3D. Do you thing it's bether to train a sequence of monouvers (hovering, rolling turns, etc..) or train the Torque roll and from that train the other manouvers? Thanks!
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:26 PM   #2
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What are your goals in the hobby? Do you want to master everything manuever wise, or is there particular things you want to learn?

For me, learning all orientations of the airplane is the best way to approach ANY manuever.

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Old 09-01-2009, 09:23 PM   #3
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Hi Seth. I would like to know if there is a sequence to learn 3D?
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:45 PM   #4
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This is a good place to start

BoneDoc's 3D Clinic

IMHO upright harrier is the cornerstone of 3D flight. It teaches you post-stall characteristic in flight, and becomes the building block for hovering, and eventually torque-rolling as well.
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:50 PM   #5
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If you are just wanting to master 3D flight, start with a basic roll. First do it in the center, master it there, then do it at the ends, coming at you away from you, looping, circling etc. This will help you learn all orientations. Then transfer to the upright/inverted harrier, then on to hovering, then onto torque rolling, then the harrier roll.

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Old 09-01-2009, 09:52 PM   #6
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Pick your favorites and try them on a simulator. My sim doesn't do upright harriers very well. I learned that mostly at the field. I learned torque rolls on the sim. That one took a while to keep it going without falling out. It's harder at the field but the sim totally got me used to the inputs required to keep it rolling without falling out. Bone Doc's site is great. It wasn't around when I was first learning. You have a good resource. I totally believe in simulators but here in Wisconsin that's what you do when the snow is on the ground...that and put together new planes.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:23 AM   #7
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This is a good place to start

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Old 09-02-2009, 06:23 AM   #8
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Hi everyone. I'm starting 3D. Do you thing it's bether to train a sequence of monouvers (hovering, rolling turns, etc..) or train the Torque roll and from that train the other manouvers? Thanks!
I'd say learn the hover first to “condition yourself” that the plane will not just fall out of the sky...might be more important to guys that have flown ‘regular’ for a long time. While learning to hover you will learn to harrier by default.

Then believe it or not… point rolls, to learn top rudder intuitively …which is very important for harrier rollers. Nothing worse looking than harrier rolls without proper rudder inputs or 'dead rudder' harrier rolls.
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I too am learning 3d and all of these posts and the link to BoneDoc's clinic its all great info thanks for sharing guys.
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Before long, you'll see the FG edition of the 3D Clinic .
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:08 PM   #11
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Thank you very much. Great site. Thank you all.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:00 PM   #12
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I learned 3D from a profile no sim as my family is to poor and we cant afford a computer that will run one good but if you have a sim try it on there first it will help you greatly and just practice and practice and practice and more practice
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