FAA NO FLY On SEPT 15, Youngstown, OH area *************

[SleepyC]

A new FAA NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the Youngstown, OH area for Tuesday, 9/15, from 9:15a until 12:40p EDT. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover VIP movement in this area. Model aircraft operations are prohibited in this area during the specific times of the TFR. NOTAM/TFRs are subject to change with very short notice. Please check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR information.

Timely alerts are also available on the web or on you cell phone at: Twitter.com/amagov.

See the link to the TFR below for more detailed information regarding the restrictions.

Area 1 (9/15, 9:15a - 12:40p EDT)
(30nm radius from Latitude: 41º11'32"N, Longitude: 080º44'31"W)
Area 2 (9/15, 9:15a - 10:20a EDT)
(10nm radius from Latitude: 41º15'39"N, Longitude: 080º40'45"W)
Area 3 (9/15, 9:40a - 12:40p EDT)
(10nm radius from Latitude: 41º08'04"N, Longitude: 080º51'11"W)
TFR - 9/9380

Map View of the Affected Area

Regards
Gregory Hahn
Technical Director
AMA

[louu]

theres also one in south jersey



A new FAA NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the greater Philadelphia, PA area for Tuesday, 9/15, from 3:15p until 7:20p EDT. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover VIP movement in this area. Model aircraft operations are prohibited in this area during the specific times of the TFR. NOTAM/TFRs are subject to change with very short notice. Please check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR information.

Timely alerts are also available on the web or on you cell phone at: Twitter.com/amagov.
See the link to the TFR below for more detailed information regarding the restrictions.

• Area 1 (9/15, 3:15p - 7:20p EDT)
  (30nm radius from Latitude: 39º55'27"N, Longitude: 075º11'11"W
• Area 2 (9/15, 3:15p - 7:20p EDT)
  (10nm radius from Latitude: 39º55'27"N, Longitude: 075º11'11"W)

TFR - 9/9379
Map View of the Affected Area
Regards
Gregory Hahn
Technical Director
AMA

[3D Master]

Whats up with this?? Just curious.

[Judge]

These are fairly commonplace and are issued whenever there is a VIP (President, Vice President, etc.) flying in or out of a place. The AMA is now trying to communicate these to clubs since in the past they were pretty much ignored by modelers, and that kind of ticked off the FAA/DHS folks.

So if your club field is within the affected area you should not fly during the time of the TFR.

BTW - TFR stands for "Temporary Flight Restriction".

[SleepyC]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3D Master
	Whats up with this?? Just curious.

Exactly what judge said.

[cap231jim]

We also have TFR in Pittsburgh tomorrow from 12:05 to 3:20.

On Sep. 24-25 there is another TFR due to the G 20 crap; when all the elitist's come to town.

It's generally a 30 mile ring around PIT, from the surface to 18,000 ft. The NOTAM specifically mentioned model aircraft in the restriction.

From what I'm reading on the forums, restrictions and regulations to R/C aircraft from the FAA (who is always there to help ) may be coming soon.....

Jim

[Judge]

Just so people do not take the TFR the wrong way here is the part where models are mentioned:

	Quote:
	C. The following operations are not authorized within this TFR: flight training, practice instrument approaches, aerobatic flight, glider operations, parachute operations, ultralight, hang gliding, balloon operations, agriculture/crop dusting, animal population control flight operations, banner towing operations, model aircraft operations, model rocketry, and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS).

Plus there is a whole other list of restrictions on the aircraft that are allowed. Typical stuff since 9-11.

[WrongWayRC]

We get em down here in FLA when the shuttle goes up. Restrictions do not quite reach to Daytona but clubs to the South of us are affected.

No hoovering next to the lunch pad!!!

[Extra nuts]

Wow. Never heard of this kind of thing. When you think about it, it's kind of dumb in a way cause there are anouncing to the general public(and terrorists) where the pres or someone associated is flying at or to or from. I wouldnt think that would be wise. But then again, i guess it does eliminate most possibilities of an attack of some sort cause if nothing is up in the air than anything seen up there would be considered a threat and taken out. But on the other hand i wonder how many people still fly because they didn't get the message not to fly? Your average joe flying a foamie in his yard or a elec park flyer in his yard or a local park wouldn't hear about the warning. Your average farmer with a crop duster or ultralight pilot or small experimantal aircraft pilot flying out of a private landing strip might not hear about it either! I wonder how they enforce that no fly rule exactly???? This is the kind of thing that will sneak up on us and screw up our model flying freedoms in the future. I can imagine it now, GS planes would get noticed if flying because they didnt get the message and the man will start crackin down on us with the whip. Right in the goatass. Well thankfullly we have sleepy and the up to speed giants here to keep us informed.
Yo.

[satdave]

I would keep the planes in the hanger today, The plane , AF-1 is a flying transmitter with I'm sure wideband RF counter measures. No doubt including our frequencies. Who knows what it could do as it departs the area. Aside from the fact they know where the fields are and probably have the crazy Black Helicopters on stanby.
It affects several of our fields near PIT.

[Craven]

I don't ever remember having any TFR's when Bush came to Cincinnati. We had one of these Labor Day weekend when Obama came to town to speak at a union rally. The Secret Service has their hands full protecting him.

[rcpattern]

As they said above. These have been going for years, but were largely ignored in the modeling world. Unless you went online looking for NOTAM's or were a full scale pilot in the area, you wouldn't have known. The AMA is trying to work with the FAA to get this information out to show that we are willing to cooperate. After working closely with the FAA on UAV stuff the last few years I have learned they are willing to work with us, and we are a very important part of what they plan to do in the future, they just want us to show a little cooperation in the matters and follow the NOTAM's as do the full scale pilots in an area. We don't have to like it, but they still control the airspace in which we fly, and it is in our best interest to work with them as much as possible. I know the AMA is heavily involved, far more than is public knowledge at this moment and the FAA definitely respects what the AMA has done to semi regulate radio control. I think in the end, not a lot is going to change from an R/C standpoint, but going out of our way ignoring NOTAM's and such is not going to help the cause.

Arch

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Craven
	I don't ever remember having any TFR's when Bush came to Cincinnati. We had one of these Labor Day weekend when Obama came to town to speak at a union rally. The Secret Service has their hands full protecting him.

Like I said, they have been very common for some time now. The difference is the AMA is now making their members aware of them.

[exeter_acres]

Exactly...the FAA has posted TFR's forever........

Knowing the FAA they probably posted TFR's at Kitty Hawk for the Wright Bros.!

[satdave]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Craven
	I don't ever remember having any TFR's when Bush came to Cincinnati. We had one of these Labor Day weekend when Obama came to town to speak at a union rally. The Secret Service has their hands full protecting him.

It's clear he hates R/C.........................