Ultracoat over ultracoat

[ninja pilot]

Does anyone know of a way to get ultracoat to lay over ultracoat on an open (ribbed) area?

[MODE 1]

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[exeter_acres]

the way I have done it is....
apply the base area as normal
poke lots of very little holes in the base area where the top piece will go......
then spray with a diluted windex
(have used a dish soap/ water mix too....)
apply the top coat...
squeegee (sp?) until you can't squeegee any more.......
let set over night.. carefully tack down with an iron...
not too much heat, but just enough to tack the edges...



I'm sure there are 46 different ways, but this has worked for me

[zoomer260]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ninja pilot
	Does anyone know of a way to get ultracoat to lay over ultracoat on an open (ribbed) area?

If it is a change in color say and you are covering the wing you iron the two together with about 3/8 to 1/2 inch overlap then apply the two as one piece.

If it is a graphic added after the wing has been covered and shrunk float it on with Windex squeegee all the excess Windex out and let it dry. Some don't but I go over it with an iron on low heat after that.

Understand I am no expert on covering and wish someone I know loved to like an addict and I did not have to do it at all. I get decent results only because if I don't like the way it came out and can't get it at least decent I will rip it off and start over.

I have seen a Masters work and I will forever be a Peon ! I have seen a wooden built up 30% Extra 260 COWL covered with MonoCote and it looked like paint ! A non ending compound curve from start to finish and it was PERFECT. In THREE colors !! I bowed my head.

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Ive had no luck with windex, soap, etc. Theres got to be another way. How are the arfs done by Horizon? Anybody...?????

[MODE 1]

Tell us what problems your encountering doing it the soap or windex / squeegee way. If its lots of bubbles then floating it on and sgeegeeing the excess out will work except where youve been holding it ......that usually loses some adhesion.

[husker]

I think the main trick(for me anyway) is to plan everything out in detail ahead of time. That way if you have a color change over an open area(ex. ribs on a built up wing) you can overlap the two and join them prior to tacking them down on the plane. Same thing goes for curves plan it out ahead of time and save yourself some of the frustration of having to pull it off and redo it a bunch of times...although it is inevitable for most of us

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	Quote: Originally Posted by MODE 1
	Tell us what problems your encountering doing it the soap or windex / squeegee way. If its lots of bubbles then floating it on and sgeegeeing the excess out will work except where youve been holding it ......that usually loses some adhesion.

From my experience, those work until you fly the plane, then the pieces catch the wind and peel off after the first or second flight. Windex and soap do not activate the glue like it does on monokote. The heat from the iron applied afterwords either bubbles up or doesnt activate the glue. either way, your screwed. All I know is the overseas folks have it down to a science and their keeping that secret to themselves.

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	Quote: Originally Posted by husker
	I think the main trick(for me anyway) is to plan everything out in detail ahead of time. That way if you have a color change over an open area(ex. ribs on a built up wing) you can overlap the two and join them prior to tacking them down on the plane. Same thing goes for curves plan it out ahead of time and save yourself some of the frustration of having to pull it off and redo it a bunch of times...although it is inevitable for most of us

This is the method I sugested to Clint (the thread starter). Cut it all out, join them on a glass table with low heat then apply to the surface being covered, tack with an iron then heat gun carefully to shrink.
There has to be a better way though.

[2robinhood]

Will Monokote trim solvent work on Ultracotes ?

[ninja pilot]

I tried it, it does work but I can't get the bubbles out because it sticks to fast. I had a friend tell me to mix it 50/50 with rapid tack but that only worked over the sheeted areas. The areas between the ribs are the toughest I just can't seem to get it to work.

[littlecrankshaft]

I have had very good luck with using a small sharp (key word) needle and poking lots of holes in a pre-marked off and well defined area then apply as usual taking care not to overheat as Ultracote distorts easily...especially thinner long pieces. Oh... no Windex

[Bad Dog!]

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[gttsherman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by exeter_acres
	the way I have done it is.... apply the base area as normal poke lots of very little holes in the base area where the top piece will go...... then spray with a diluted windex (have used a dish soap/ water mix too....) apply the top coat... squeegee (sp?) until you can't squeegee any more....... let set over night.. carefully tack down with an iron... not too much heat, but just enough to tack the edges... I'm sure there are 46 different ways, but this has worked for me

you know so much about covering, why don't you take some of that knowledge and learn how to ship the extreme flight parts to the right address

[ninja pilot]

Please save comments like that for another thread or a PM. Thanks