Hacker A60-L series motor mounting

[Mr.Pickle]

I have a 24x12. But How bout a 25x12.5, I have one of those too, is it going to be too much?

[Bdegan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DHobbyShop
	We run the A60-18L on Castle 110HV. 24x12 APC E Prop. 12S 5000mah. ESC settings: V1.55 firmware Low timing Acceleration 3 Current limiting off If you don't set the Timing and acceleration values, it will screech when you apply throttle. Anythig smaller than a 24x12 is bad performance.

It did screech if I applied the throttle too quickly. I used the settings you posted earlier as closely as I could. Some of the values you have were not available.
Also, I am using the 16L, not the 18. I don't have clearance for a 24 inch prop. Would that be a big difference in the settings ?
Here are the settings I had. Some of the descriptions are not the same as what you had. And some of the values were not available.

Throttle Tab
Software Vesion: 3.19
Vehicle Type: Airplane
Throttle Type: Auto Calibrate end point
Throttle Response: 5* ( default ) Is this the acceleration? If so, the only value lower is ( 2 )

Brake
disabled

Cut offs
Cut off voltage: 30v
Current Limiting: disabled
Cut Off type: Hard cutoff
Auto LiPo volts/cell: 3.0 ( default )

Motor
Start Power: Low ( 39 )
Motor Timing: Low ( 0 )
Direction: Forward ( default )
PWM Rate: 12khz ( default ) There was no 13. It jumps to 16

Other
Power On Beep: Enabled

Device
Phoenix-HV2 ( F310C )

Firmware
V2.18 ( Beta )

Thanks

[Mithrandir]

The Spin 99 ESC is the hot ticket for the A60

[jbm]

I've been using the v4.1 Turnigy 100a HV esc - yes the cheap far eastern one... It works perfectly out of the box on my A60-18L, 24x12 APC-E and 12s 3000 setup. No screeches or timing issues, and what Rolls Royce would have called 'adequate' power

[3DHobbyShop]

Bdegan - Yes, reduce throttle response to 2. Apparently your later release software, either for the link or the ESC, is different than my older stuff. I've not run Firmware V2.18 on our ESC's. I have no idea if that's compatible with the Hacker A60L of not. The HV ESC's we've purchased recently were still coming out of the package with V1.55 which works very well and so we left them alone. Castle had a couple of bad software releases after 2.0 which screeched on Hackers no matter what. I *expect* that Castle will know the difference if you ask them, certainly they had a lot of angry people calling for a while.

Mith - I disgaree. I have both, I prefer the throttle response of a Castle on 1.55. It's not a huge difference, but since I have both, I can choose.

Jbm - Me too. I have a couple of the V4 of the Turnigy Sentillon 100 ESC's. No problems so far. V4 appears to be the ticket. V2 certainly was not, and I skipped V3.

[Bdegan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DHobbyShop
	Bdegan - Yes, reduce throttle response to 2. Apparently your later release software, either for the link or the ESC, is different than my older stuff. I've not run Firmware V2.18 on our ESC's. I have no idea if that's compatible with the Hacker A60L of not. The HV ESC's we've purchased recently were still coming out of the package with V1.55 which works very well and so we left them alone. Castle had a couple of bad software releases after 2.0 which screeched on Hackers no matter what. I *expect* that Castle will know the difference if you ask them, certainly they had a lot of angry people calling for a while.

What about the PWM rate ? Leave it at 12 or bump it up to 16, the next available option ?

[Bdegan]

Can a Firmware or software update be rolled back ?

[jbm]

I just want to say thanks to 3DHS Ben while I think to do so: You've certainly shouted loud about the A60-18L setup, and I'm very glad I listened when searching threads for elusive facts and figures. Its nice to get word out about known good systems; anything that de-mystifies the hobby is good IMHO.

[Bdegan]

Another question. You said to set the cutoff voltage to 30 volts.
If running a 12S setup, shouldn"t it be 36 volts ?

[3DHobbyShop]

Bdegan -

You won't notice any difference at those two PWM settings.

Castle had it set so that the V2+ couldn't be rolled back at first, but there was a great outcry about this, and I don't know what the current state of affairs is. Castle *should* know the details about their own products, hopefully they will be able to quickly tell you whether you need different firmware for your A60-16L and if so, how best to get it.

Here is the bulk of the data on firmware for your ESC: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1097391

We run 30V or less, simply because we'd rather puff a pack (esp now that we're running $59 packs) than put a plane in jeopardy.

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jbm - Thanks. We have a lot of 50CC electric flights under our belts now, have learned a few things. Glad it's been useful to you.

[3DHobbyShop]

Oh, also, on the A60-16L, we typically run 22x12 props, but we have run 24x12, knowing that we needed to take it easy on the motor on uplines. For sure, you *can* overheat a -16L on a 24" even in fairly cool weather. It's all about the left thumb...

[Bdegan]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DHobbyShop
	Bdegan - You won't notice any difference at those two PWM settings.

Ok Thanks

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DHobbyShop
	Castle had it set so that the V2+ couldn't be rolled back at first, but there was a great outcry about this, and I don't know what the current state of affairs is. Castle *should* know the details about their own products, hopefully they will be able to quickly tell you whether you need different firmware for your A60-16L and if so, how best to get it.

I just sent an email to Castle with all my current settings and equiptment, wait and see what they have to say.

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DHobbyShop
	We run 30V or less, simply because we'd rather puff a pack (esp now that we're running $59 packs) than put a plane in jeopardy.

OK, Makes sense I will leave it at 30
Thanks again

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Thanks Ben for all the help with setup. These Big systems are not something I want to experiment to much on myself.
Little planes and electronics are not that big a deal.

Brad