RCGF "B" Line of Engines

[hollywoodjax]

Al,
I also ran one of those props on one of my 50cc's. I think the prop is more of an sport prop. I ran that prop for about 3 gallons of fuel. It pulls pretty good. I did notice that it would flex some. Now that being said it would make a great prop for sport flying or a big ol 50cc warbird. I have one of the Hawk 22x8 3d props. Looks more like the JFX/XOAR props just a little bit wider not much though!!! I am running it on the same motor as I ran the other Hawk prop on. I like the hawk prop that I am running now!! I am ripping the prop on my motor and might have to go to a bigger prop. I completely agree about the canister set up. Heck I would give $80.00 just for the canister even if it came without the flex header. I will try and post a picture of the prop that I am running compared to the xoar or jfx. I was not worried about a few rpms either. Good luck with your testing hope the rain lets of for you to get some flight in! The thing that I love about florida is that we can fly 365 days a year!!!

[Al Lewis]

As I said earlier I am not too familiar with the Hawk series of props yet. I know the one I have is a 22X10A but have no idea what their ABC rating refers too. I guess I should get on their site again and do a little brushing up. LOL As far as flying, anyone can tell you that I am no 3D wiz! LOL I just like to fly around and do a few maneuvers every now and then. Just tried to mount the canister setup but it seems I'm going to have to get some shorter screws as the flange is much thinner then the muffler's. Still, it has stopped raining, still bad winds, so I may at least get to run the engine some more on the stand when my neighbor gets home. He's my videographer!! LOL Hopefully I can get some good tach readings on it.

[Al Lewis]

Okay, just went through the Hawk website and the "C" props look like they may be designed more for 3D. They really don't explain and if they do I don't read Chinese. LOL Not the easiest of websites to get around in but they seem to know plenty about props! They go from an "A" series to an "H" series. Some look really weird. LOL

[hollywoodjax]

Al,
I was just trying to let you know a little that I have experienced with them. I am no expert by any means at flying either! I am just getting in to 3d a bit more. I think that the "A" is the sport prop and the "C" is the 3d series. The A line of Hawk prop I ran, it did good at hovering did flex a little but it would still keep pulling all the way vertical. I am now using the 22x8"C" hawk prop and it is a great prop for 3d. It has no flex on run up that I can see at all. I had to get longer bolts also for my header. I was all excited to run the canister set-up then I noticed I had to get longer bolts. I was lucky cause I already had some so I was able to run it when I had anticipated. Here are a couple of pics with prop comparison. The first pic is the Xoar 22x8 and the Hawk 22x8 "C". The 2nd pic is of the 27a Vess with the Hawk 27x10"C". I have not ran the 27" Hawk prop yet. I have been playing with the 50cc planes lately! The last two pics are closer to compare the prop blades! The pics are not the best I took them with my phone!

[Al Lewis]

That 22X8 C looks for all the world like the Vess. I have a Vess 23A here I might try out at some point but want to try Rons Hawk prop out first. I like the Xoar props and ran them for quite a while, the ply version. I also love the Vess but am willing to try anything new. That's how ya find the good stuff! LOL BTW I appreciate all of your input. It's great having someone with first hand knowledge helping you out.

[hollywoodjax]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Al Lewis
	If you do this as long as I have you will find that there is always at least one idiot who just can't resist showing the rest of the flying community just what an ignorant dumbass he is.

Seems to me that he woke up today and installed his thong instead of his briefs!!!! Just let me know if I have got it off the subject to much. I was just trying to shed some light on the things you had mentioned in this thread that I have been using and going to give feed back to Ron also. Al keep up the good info!!!

[zoomer260]

Well Al ole' Buddy. It is the weekend. How did it do ?

[Al Lewis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by hollywoodjax
	Seems to me that he woke up today and installed his thong instead of his briefs!!!! Just let me know if I have got it off the subject to much. I was just trying to shed some light on the things you had mentioned in this thread that I have been using and going to give feed back to Ron also. Al keep up the good info!!!

Believe me your input is greatly appreciated and welcome.

[Al Lewis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by zoomer260
	Well Al ole' Buddy. It is the weekend. How did it do ?

Would you like me to take a picture of the wind and rain or just wanna check the weather map??? LMAO I'm afraid mother nature has other plans today anyway Zoomer. LOL

[hollywoodjax]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Al Lewis
	Believe me your input is greatly appreciated and welcome.

Thanks Al!!!!! I will try my best to help out if I am able to at all.

[Al Lewis]

	Quote: Originally Posted by zoomer260
	Well Al ole' Buddy. It is the weekend. How did it do ?

Here's tomorrows forecast.

8 am



44°F
Showers 39°F From S 8 mph

So the winds look to be dying down!!! LOL

[hollywoodjax]

Al,

While running the canister set-up, my header and canister wanted to keep sliding apart a little bit. It would also turn a little to one side.( The canister) So I took and drilled a pilot hole threw the pipe and canister and installed a socket head servos screw. I cut them down also so they would not stick up in the inside of the pipe. You can see them in the picture. I drilled the coupling also. Mine also would get some oil coming threw around the coupling at the header joint and the canister joint. I wrapped the canister inlet pipe and header pipe before I slid the coupling on the both of them. It help mine out on not splitting oil all over the inside of the plane! If you look at the slit in my clamps you can see the servo screw that I had used. The pipe does not want to come apart now, nor does it want to turn to one side either!! Just a little more of the way I had done to mine.

[Al Lewis]

I noticed the same thing on the YAK I built for my son using the canisters. Didn't matter how many times you centered it it would rotate. I'll have to take a look at doing your mod to correct it. I don't like things that move from where I put them! LOL

[hollywoodjax]

I also stuck a piece of square stock with some of the soft side velcro behind the canister to keep it pushed towards the header pipe. This also help it from wanting ti vibrate back. I will take a picture of it later tonight for you to see it also! Got to take the wife out now! Thanks for the feed back! Will help anyway I can as stated before! If you do the screw method you will not have anymore twisting!!!!!!

[Craven]

What the hell did I miss?