Aeroworks 50cc Edge 540 for first Giant?

[SR22pilot]

The little extra I was flying (House of Balsa) was a box built kit by someone who doesn't have a lot of airplane building experience (me). It was a lot of fun, but it turned out too heavy. I put the OS .70 Ultimate 4-stroke on the front, and it has tons of pulling power, but I had to add weight in the back with a larger battery to get the CG to come out right. I never checkec lateral balance, and that is a great idea. I will start doing that. I'm not sure what you mean by setting up my thrust? Does that mean choosing the right prop for the plane/engine combo?

I'll look for some planes that meat the wing area / weight criteria and report back.

[AllBread]

	Quote: Originally Posted by SR22pilot
	I'll look for some planes that meat the wing area / weight criteria and report back.

His criteria will narrow it down to two planes (to my knowledge), the 3DHS 87" SHP and the Extreme Flight 88" Yak - both great flyers (I have and love the 3DHS SHP). The AW Edge is also going to fit the bill perfectly (although will have a smaller wing and therefore fly a little "heavier"). I have an AW Edge sitting on my shop table but haven't flown it yet. I will say that the AW Quick-builds are as easy as it possible gets for assembly and are durable as can be and that right there goes a long way towards making it a perfect 1st gasser. I have the AW Extra 300 and I expect the flight performance of the Edge to be fantastic. Perhaps not as "floaty" as a plane with 1450 squares of wing, but still able to pull off all the 3D moves with ease, should be fantastic for IMAC, and will be an all around stable performer with no bad habits. For down on the deck 3d, the 3DHS 87" Shp can't be beat and it's ease of assembly is second only to AW for the planes that I have put together.

Again, I would advise not to overthink it too much and just got with a plane that looks good from you from a reputable company with a long history of satisfied customers.

Enjoy what ever you choose.

[hangingbach]

I agree, dont over think it too much, i personally think its a hobby that puts you in a state of constant learning and evolution. Good planes, bad planes and down right ugly planes will teach you, which is important.

As for the thrust, i meant the way your engine points a little to the right. and not straight and centered, most manufacturers will put in right engine thrust in the firewall, based on the recommended engine or what ever they tested the plane with. This is just a good starting point. You would need to tweak it so your rudder is not on trim. and the plane flies straight. As for the up or down thrust of the engine, there are various methods to check this. I mostly adjust it according to how the plane responds when i am hanging. You will find plenty of much more talented people then me telling you how to adjust the thrust line of your engine on the web.

btw i know this might stir up a storm but flying too tail heavy doesnt really help in 3D. a good plane, with a correct setup will do 3D very well with a neutral to slightly nose heavy CG. Infact you will be able to tame it quicker.

Prop to engine combination i feel is more critical when it comes to smaller glow engines. for larger engines stick to the recommended prop sizes by the manufacturer and use decent well balanced props and you wouldn't have to worry about anything there.

You will enjoy what ever you choose.

my two cents worth!!

[hangingbach]

[f5air]

well check this links
www.aero-works.net
www.extremeflightrc.com
www.pilot-rc.com
www.wildhare.com
www.3dhobbyshop.com

you have a lot of airframes, the AW and Wildhare Edge are great, love the color combination of the AW. Call Rocco, Dennis or Chuk at AW, they will be very happy to help you on your questions of which one to get.

LET me copy a explination that i found great when i was looking my First gasser. On a topic that i posted in other forum.

member gboulton(from other forum).
"Your choice of airframe might just come down to some specifics of what you like in airplanes...specifics that have nothing to do with brand name, but instead are related to the airplane being modeled. By their very design (owing largely to the sweep...or lack of it...in the leading edge of the wings) the Extra and Edge have certain characteristics that differ from each other.

Extras tend to be "snappers"...and I don't mean this in a bad way. They tumble with ease, start and stop snaps very crisply, cleanly, and precisely, and are widely regarded as the superior "precision aerobatics/IMAC style" airplane of the two. They do not, however, tend to be quite as stable in high alpha situations (harriers, for example), and tend to want to rock the wings a bit and fall off to one side or the other when stalled.

On the flip side, Edges tend to excel at high alpha stuff. Harriers can be flown at ridiculously slow speeds, with no evident wing rock. Stalls are frequently very gentle nose-down and we're flying again events, and the airplane is very forgiving of "mistakes" in these attitudes. They also tend to be very crisp and precise in rolls. Unlike the Extra, however, snaps can be pretty sloppy, if not downright impossible to start and stop cleanly. The edcge is not an airplane that likes to tumble, and it'll whine about it if you ask it to. For this reason, it is frequently seen as a poor choice for precision routines requiring clean and precise breaks."

cjcy(other forum)
"As far as the difference between all the planes. A Extra 260 from one manufacture will not fly the same as another. All of our planes are "Tweaked" to some extent. I've owned or flown all the models of planes you asked about, and here is my opinion. There are several different versions of the Extra 300. I prefer the standard mid wing Extra 300 over them all. The edges are very docile and tend to be great harrier, hover, torque roll planes, but don't feel to get in a groove as good as an Extra. The planes (300's & 540T's) with larger canopy's tend to couple a little less in knife edge due to a little more equal surface area above and below the wing. The scale elevators without counterbalances seem to make a 260 not have as good of elevator authority. To me the Mid Wing Extra 300 seems to be a great platform. It tends to track very well and 3D great. But like I said earlier, Two of the same model planes from two different manufacturers will fly different depending on how they were designed."