33% vs 50cc

[rcolle]

In general, does a 33% fly that much better than a 50cc class plane?
Engines: 50cc vs 85cc
WS: 80'ish" vs 90'ish"
I've always heard the 100cc and up's are the way to go in IMAC, but are we talking night and day difference from a 50?
I understand how set up can effect characteristics, im just talking about flight quality.
I have very limited time on my friend's 37.5% Yak54, and it was much different than my 50.

[Flyfalcons]

Depending on the plane it can be a substantial difference. If you're only looking at a 90ish" wing span then the differences won't be as great over a good quality 50cc plane.

[sweetpea]

Here's the deal with a 33% plane. It will fly slower than a 50cc for IMAC and is a little bigger, so easier to see. Problem is it takes about the same cost for a 33% vs a 35%. Typically you will go with something like an 80 or 85 on a 33%. Many of these newer motors today can and do fly the newer 35% planes.

My thoughts.......either go 50cc or go 35% cc. I wouldn't waste my money on the 33%.

Just my thoughts though.

[rcolle]

	Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpea
	Here's the deal with a 33% plane. It will fly slower than a 50cc for IMAC and is a little bigger, so easier to see. Problem is it takes about the same cost for a 33% vs a 35%. Typically you will go with something like an 80 or 85 on a 33%. Many of these newer motors today can and do fly the newer 35% planes. My thoughts.......either go 50cc or go 35% cc. I wouldn't waste my money on the 33%. Just my thoughts though.

Thanks for the insight guys, is there anything to say about: if you're going to 35% you might as well go 40%?

[jamesrxx951]

	Quote: Originally Posted by rcolle
	Thanks for the insight guys, is there anything to say about: if you're going to 35% you might as well go 40%?

yea thats a bigger price jump from 30-35.

[Cracky]

	Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpea
	Problem is it takes about the same cost for a 33% vs a 35%.

I don't necessarily find that to be the case. the airframe is not that much more. Some of the 33% planes still use single servos on ailerons so your servo count is the same from the 50cc and the engine isn't that much different. A DA50 is $600 and the DA85 is $800. Batteries are the same.

[rcolle]

What are some of the best 33%'er / DA-85 planes in IMAC right now?

[zoomer260]

	Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpea
	Here's the deal with a 33% plane. It will fly slower than a 50cc for IMAC and is a little bigger, so easier to see. Problem is it takes about the same cost for a 33% vs a 35%. Typically you will go with something like an 80 or 85 on a 33%. Many of these newer motors today can and do fly the newer 35% planes. My thoughts.......either go 50cc or go 35% cc. I wouldn't waste my money on the 33%. Just my thoughts though.

I am the guy to ask because I have been sittin' on this same fence.

First off yes 8 foot planes fly enough better than 7 foot planes to take into consideration.

Sweet Pea hit it dead on correct. Skip 33% and go 35%. I have had 33% and the fence I was on was to go 33% with the gear of a 35% and upgrade later when I was a little warmer and fuzzier $$$ wise.

I happen to like the Pilot line of 260's best. The SD/TOC?Thundertiger etc. second. These designs are the forerunner of Pilot anyway. I also happen to want to power my next large plane with a dle 111.

I can buy a 35% Pilot 260 with DLE 111 Combo CHEAPER than I can buy anyones 33% 260 and a DLE seperately. For me the onboard gear would be EXACLTLY the same.

I can save $160 going with the 35%.

[jamesrxx951]

another idea is look on swap shop for a good 35%er. you can get a heck of a deal in there.

[zoomer260]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Cracky
	I don't necessarily find that to be the case. the airframe is not that much more. Some of the 33% planes still use single servos on ailerons so your servo count is the same from the 50cc and the engine isn't that much different. A DA50 is $600 and the DA85 is $800. Batteries are the same.

Think DLE 55 and whatever to go 33%. I would agree with this statement if DL offered a big single.

I'd like to have a DA 100 myself. I wouldn't buy the DA 50 though. Too much for too little.

[rcolle]

I think what i'll do is buy a DA85, Take up an offer on a used 33%, equip it with components that will take me into a 35% later in the season, or next, and use my current 50cc as backup. (if I can get the 33 ready before Apache Jct.) Otherwise it's 50 Katana primary, Funtanax100 backup.

[luv2flyguy]

I have a 33% plane, it is an Aeroworks 75cc Yak with a ZDZ Super 80 engine. The plane flies great, but as stated here if I were to do it over again I would go with the 100cc plane. My 75cc has all the same servos and electronics that I have in my 100cc Extra 260, so with that said I'm am thinking about selling the 33% airfarme and engine and getting another 35% plane and another DA-100 since I already have all the servos and electronics. Just my 2 cents.

[flying skunks]

I will put it plane and simple .............Bigger is Better ...........................

[sweetpea]

If you are getting the 85......just find a good used 35% plane. You won't ever regret that decision. You may regret spending $$ on a 33% though. Or get a 100in warbird.

[66stang]

I think the 33% planes are a waste of money and effort! For the price of a good 100cc plane and DLE111 you just can't beat the bang to buck felling you get. Also wild hare 100cc planes fly great and are a tremendous value. Love mine and I'm only using one 7955 per aileron and it does just fine.