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Old 11-20-2009, 01:19 AM   #1
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Default Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone had any videos or instructions on how to "slide land" an airplane? By slide land, I mean you kind of hold a lot of rudder and a little aileron and the plane kind of slows down nicely but doesn't stall.

Watch this video for an example at 1:03 to 1:05 of the movie for the guy doing it to burn off speed before he finally lands.


I kind of know how to do it, but can't quite do it in the sim. I haven't tried with my big planes yet since most of them just aren't ready yet.

Thanks a lot
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:34 AM   #2
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Default Re: Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

Its called slipping into the wind. You do this to maintain track yet still lose airspeed.
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

hold a fixed amount of rudder and use a certain amount of opposite aileron to establish the bank angle and a certain amount of up elevator to establish the desired path of flight.
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:12 AM   #4
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Default Re: Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

Here's an awesome vid. Landing begins at 3:26.

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Old 11-20-2009, 02:34 AM   #5
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Not quite what you're looking for but cool!
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Looks like a Bill Hemple promo...
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:10 AM   #7
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Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone had any videos or instructions on how to "slide land" an airplane? By slide land, I mean you kind of hold a lot of rudder and a little aileron and the plane kind of slows down nicely but doesn't stall.

Watch this video for an example at 1:03 to 1:05 of the movie for the guy doing it to burn off speed before he finally lands.

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

I kind of know how to do it, but can't quite do it in the sim. I haven't tried with my big planes yet since most of them just aren't ready yet.

Thanks a lot
David
Basically, you hold aileron for your bank angle, rudder to keep the airplane tracking straight, and a combination of elevator/rudder to turn, and descend/climb. Almost like a V-Tail airplane if that makes sense. Just have to be careful not to get too slow, because it slows an airplane QUICK!
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:48 AM   #8
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Default Re: Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

Also if your doing it to slow down for a landing then you will have to get off of the rudder before touch down and when you do that your elevator gets more effective so you have to let off of some elevator as you get off of the rudder or it will " ballon " on you.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:25 AM   #9
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Yes, that is a great video of the slide landing! Thank you


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Here's an awesome vid. Landing begins at 3:26.

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Old 11-20-2009, 09:28 AM   #10
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Actually that was a very very cool landing that was exactly what I was looking for

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:51 AM   #11
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Default Re: Slideeeeeeeeee Landing videos???

I did something like this the last time out. It was basically just a high alpha knife edge that doesn't have the wings straight up and down. It's very cool when the aerobatic bipes do them just before touch down at air shows (I think it was Sean Tucker in Oshkosh?).
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:13 AM   #12
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I do one at the end of this video.
Kind of hard to see but you get the idea. All of the above comments are right on. This is a good thing to learn. You can fly much shorter approaches and if you have a dead stick and too much airspeed you know how to slow it down very well, which I have had to do before. I had a stiff clunk line and rolled to knife edge and the engine died. I was off the end of the runway and was able to slip it in for an uneventful landing.

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Old 11-20-2009, 11:31 AM   #13
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I do one at the end of this video.
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Kind of hard to see but you get the idea. All of the above comments are right on. This is a good thing to learn. You can fly much shorter approaches and if you have a dead stick and too much airspeed you know how to slow it down very well, which I have had to do before. I had a stiff clunk line and rolled to knife edge and the engine died. I was off the end of the runway and was able to slip it in for an uneventful landing.

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This is what I do. Except for every deadstick landing. I force myself to come in much too hot (better than too slow) everytime, then slip it to slow it down to the right airspeed for landing. Its actually quite amazing how small of runways you can still get the airplane back onto when deadstick, and using this method.

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A side slip in full scale is used to rapidly loose altitude without a gain in speed. Also it used to slip to land, if you see you are going to go long on landing the slip configuration will loose the altitude rapidly without a gain in speed. The trick is to go from the slip to the landing configuration with out balling up the plane. A reduction of both aileron and rudder coordinated to drop the windward wheel down on the runway is what we try to do, if you want to showboat add a little throttle and continue down the runway on one wheel. It is much easier to do it in the full scale airplane( as long as you do not go beyond 20deg of flap) than it is with models. The bigger the model the easier it is.
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