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Old 06-04-2006, 06:54 AM   #1
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Dad Videoed me flying the basic routine yesterday, just wondered what you pro's thought?
Any tips or advice that may help me or anyone else having a go!

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Old 06-04-2006, 02:21 PM   #2
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Hard to see Ollie, Looks like you had some wind though. You have the pattern down, just keep practicing. On the straight line exits and such, dont be afraid to take it high in the box, leave yourself enough room to not look rushed. Start with a line and end with a line make it long enough so the Judges can notice the end of the maneuver. A couple of the downline maneuvers were exited right into transition. Your loop also had the wind battling you. Entry looked pretty good, but the exit, you kind of squashed it making it kind of look oblong. Be ready for that exit in the wind and allow the airplane to transition smoothly. This may just mean you need more expo for softening your center or less throw.

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Old 06-05-2006, 02:22 PM   #3
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Thanks Toro , I practice whenever I can, I find it hard to reach the top of the box, sometimes, as it runs out of steam! I'm still messing with different props, as its still early days yet. Dads always saying use the whole box, so that I'll get more time before each maneuver.
Everytime I fly it gets better but still a long way to go.

Next comps in a months time, so maybe get video then and see what you think.

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:03 PM   #4
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Ollie its not always good to use the WHOLE box. Remember your next manouver starts as soon as the last one ends, so if you have an end box manouver then the next manouver is down the other end of the box you are jugd all the way on your horizontal line as part of the next manouver. So if you have a few deviations off line(1 point deduction per 10 degrees deviation) you may already be down to 7 or 8 points before you start the actual manouver. Its a real balancing act to make the sequence not look rushed but also not to over fly it. If you are stuggling a bit on your uplines just shorten them a bit, or else you will be driffting off your line and getting deductions.
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liike excelpoint says, you gotta begin each sequence right after another, but with practice you need to make it as smooth as possible, but try not to make it rushed.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:32 PM   #7
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Its what I used to listen to - Gorillaz - Dirty Harry.

Thanks Excelpoint, I didnt know all that. My dad is trying to get me into not rushing and going with the flow. At the moment I just seem to run out of space and make it hard for myself. but its coming.

Thanks everyone it really helps

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Old 06-07-2006, 03:37 PM   #8
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Ollie, My trusted friend Excelpoint is not leading you down the wrong path! Your father has a very valid point too! Confused yet? What I'm saying is the hardest things to teach pilots practicing for IMAC is wings level flight (God this is SO important! Makes your pilot work load so much easier!), being patient and symmetry.

If your plane doesn't have truly unlimited vertical,you need to fly a smaller box. That is all about framing your maneuvers. Patience is a real toughy! You need to wait for your plane to be in position in the lower classes. As you move up, complexity of sequences will start taking that time from you. It gets busy! Wings level. Imagine this; if your wings are PERFECTLY level and you push down elevator, the plane will want to go straight down. Now imagine your wings are 10 degrees from level and you push down,,, off line from the get go!

As you cut your teeth getting started, remember this; precision flying is a thinking man's game. You will come to realize how true of a statement pretty soon! Think about getting EVERYTHING down to it's simplest form. It all starts from wings level. Oh yeah,,and being a rudder KING!!!

Do this on the simulator for a real fast real big improvement in your flying. Take off and use rudder,elevator and throttle. Ailerons are easy, rudder takes time and practice. As you start flying precision aerobatics, it's all on the right hand. Elevator and aileron. Talk to all of the real masters of the game and they'll all tell you the same thing; ailerons and elevator are chainsaws, rudder and throttle are scalpels. Learn your rudder on the sim INSIDE and OUT. It's that important.

Another biggie!! DO NOT LEARN MANEUVERS FROM ONE DIRECTION ONLY!!! Left/ right right/left is the only way to go. If you can do a roller from left to right rolling to the outside only, you really can't say you're comfortable with rollers. Start from both directions from invert and upright and fully learn each maneuver!

IMAC is set up to teach you more advanced flight at each level. Don't be in a hurry to advance! Take your time and enjoy working your way up. It isn't about flying unlimited in 2 years, it's about learning fully what each division is about. Don't cheat yourself!!

Sorry about such a huge post Ollie! Your flying shows some REAL potential. I'm not at all saying you made or are making these mistakes. I'm just giving some advice that will be helpful!

Last tid bit! The guys who really enjoy IMAC are the guys who are looking to be better pilots and have fun. The folks who look only at how many pieces of wood are on the wall are those who are disappointed most weekends. Above all enjoy the hobby! If competitive flying is something you're passionate about by all means run with it! If it gets to be more like a job than a hobby, just go fly!! If it ain't fun,don't do it!!

Good luck buddy and keep us posted! You have a bunch of Flying Giants members pulling for you. Would love for you to take pictures or videos of your contests and post them!!

Go get 'em dude!!!
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Ollie, This is where you learn the geometry of aerobatic figures. This is the class that will give you the foundation all the up to unlimited. You are going to learn how to fly parallel with the runway in any wind condition. Straight and level wing flight, how to fly a round radius, how to stall the plane and 45 degrees looks like.

As far as the flight on video, all of your 45 up and downlines look shallow. It is hard to really judge a video.

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Old 06-12-2006, 12:37 PM   #10
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Big thanks for your input on this thread, it helps me no end.....If I could explain a few things it might look a bit different.

I'm Shaun, Ollie’s dad who is "Attempting" to teach him Imac Basic with what I pick up from you lot!!
We both started at the same time and are in our 5th year now, He "lives and breathes" anything that flies and is by a long way the best pilot in our club, and my excuse ... I'm a lot older than him!!

I encouraged him to start this thread because there’s sometimes a barrier between us, you know a bit like trying to teach your wife to drive. We stand there arguing about the same thing just different meanings.
So hearing it from you makes him think about it and try different things, we made good progress yesterday getting him to fly level.

His 45 up and downlines are always steep and he never seems to leave enough room for himself, always looking rushed, so I got him to stretch things out a bit and try and get things to flow better, then we will go back to the 45 deg.



He really enjoys it, we try to do about half of each flight practicing and the other half is playtime!!!



Again thanks for the input,




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Tony, Thanks for the input about basic.. It is a great help!
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