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Old 03-06-2010, 10:48 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Great video! Some things in my opinion that make hovering really easy to learn.
1. Big airplane 30% plus
2. Getting that Harrier or Hover started and down to the ground (sounds weird but when your 3 feet off the ground with a moderatly big plane lets say 50cc the ground effect makes it easier to control the torque and you feel more "locked in". plus you can see the plane lol)
3. Wing area and weight (hovering a lead brick isn't the best or easiest and getting out a of a tricky situation when your down on power is tough, also the wing area goes hand in hand with weight if you have a low wing area mushing into that harrier to hover can be a little "interesting" with a really bad tip stall.)

Awesome video's BoneDoc keep them coming!
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:17 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Will I have trouble with my 27% goldburg edge540 ??
I have a webera 35cc bully on it . with 20x8 prop..
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:48 AM
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It may look like an aerobatic plane, but it sounds to me like it's going to be hard to practice 3D on it. I'm guessing you're probably pushing 13-15 lbs on it.

IMHO, everyone practicing 3D should have an inexpensive, well-flying, and durable as heck plane to throw around and practice the moves until it becomes more automatic before moving it our prized possessions. To this effect, I think the 3dEPP Yak works very well. Here's a great review on RCG

3dEPP Yak55 review on RCG


And if you don't want to watch the whole review video, here's just the durability testing
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:05 AM
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Your right she is 13.5 pounds.. I have my magic I've been playing around with..
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:01 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Have these 3DEPP Yak55s become unabtaneium or what Doc. Every time I go to the website to get one on order they are out of stock.

Tom
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:51 PM
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These kits (or ARF is a better word since they build unless than 2 hrs), are built and hand painted in the good ol USA. So far they're having some difficulty keeping up w demand which isn't exactly a bad problem seeing that they're almost all spoken for as they are finished. Best bet is to email them or pm them to be put on the waiting list.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:50 PM
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Thanks Doc..............

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Old 03-07-2010, 11:17 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Very NICE!!

Anyone ever seen the "you suck at photoshop" tutorials??

We need some like that too, hysterical and informative at the same time.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:19 PM
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Just get Picassa. It does most things newbs need to do with their photos .
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:50 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

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IMHO, everyone practicing 3D should have an inexpensive, well-flying, and durable as heck plane to throw around and practice the moves until it becomes more automatic before moving it our prized possessions. To this effect, I think the 3dEPP Yak works very well. Here's a great review on RCG

I love these training videos that showthe transmitter inputs in real time. Nicely done.

As for for the durable as heck and well-flying 3D'er, I've been real happy with my 3D HobbyShop Extra300 SR. Set it up for 4S which turns it into a rocketship ( for those early learning panic punchouts). For a small 47" electric, this plane locks in really well and has been a real confidence builder. I also have cracked her up and repaired her countless times and she still flies like she's on rails.

Winter flying in Vermont, Can't wait till spring and my first Nall,
Al

PS: For those using surgical gloves when it's cold, yes they help, but unless you're making a video to show stick movement :-), a transmitter glove is a lot better.
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:48 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Yup, something like raydiowarm is a great product. However, not that good for filming .
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:32 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

un gran video, , desde Espaņa, congratulations.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:35 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

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And this is precisely why I recommend coming into a hover attitude from an upright harrier. People who try to enter a hover just by flying vertical, or pulling into a wall usually struggle with staying on the throttle (unless you know how to hover already). The tendency is to UNDER-throttle, which then cause the plane to flop.

As for different altitude, at higher altitude, everything does speed up a tad, but nothing that's not unmanageable. If you fly electric, just prop up to compensate for the thinner air. For gassers.... get a bigger engine .
thats right Josh....i learned from low attitude like making an approach and then hit the elevator + throttle and enter in hover. Right now i know much more how much throttle i need and also how can i cut a little bit to let the 50cc drop more and more attitude and get about 2-3 feet frome the ground, but it took me a few time and also some relax pills lol.

I want to learn more now about entering from harrier, just need to get the perfect AOA speed and manage my aileron sticks.

Thanks from the videos.!!
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Old 03-08-2010, 01:23 PM
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Anyone ever seen the "you suck at photoshop" tutorials??
I just watched one for the first time. That's hilarious.

BTW, congrats BoneDoc, looks like these clinics are helping a lot of people out.
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:33 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic: Hovering 101 - Finding Your Rhythm

Josh very well done, now can we see a torque roll thanks..
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