Welcome to The FlyingGiants! - please login or click this bar to join our community...

 

Welcome to The FlyingGiants Community! We're all about fun, and inside you'll find the greatest, friendliest, and most helpful group of people around! If this is your first time visiting, please check out site, and click here to sign up! We hope to see you soon!!

Go Back   FlyingGiants > Giant Scale Planes > Airframes and Kits
Forgot your password? Create a new account


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-27-2014, 11:45 AM   #1
ben_beyer
Notorious B.E.N.
 
ben_beyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United States, TX, Canyon
Age: 31
Posts: 3,271
Awards Showcase
F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER!: F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER! - Issue reason: You are BAD ASS, Thank you for supporting the 2009 F3A TEAM USA! 
Total Awards: 1
Send a message via AIM to ben_beyer Send a message via Yahoo to ben_beyer
Default Anyone doing 3D with 126" Cardens?

I was over at the Carden Aircraft site looking at the plane pics in their gallery. I find it's a good place for scheme ideas or just inspiration.

In looking at the 126" Extra 300/260 gallery, I noticed most of the planes are set up for IMAC. However, I was wondering if anyone has ever seen one doing some 3D?
ben_beyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 12:27 PM   #2
Colton
Now taking manuver requests!
 
Colton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: United States, GA, Canton
Posts: 1,767
Send a message via Yahoo to Colton
Default

Here's one from a few years back. This plane was 44lbs with a DA170 and RE3's

__________________
Team Horizon Hobby

Dun did already gotted back to GA
Colton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 02:04 PM   #3
terryscustom
Wood Butcher
 
terryscustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 5,791
Default

This was before my wife got her new camera....but you get the idea: Big Edge is AMAZING. Extra is super smooooth.

__________________
Intentional Straight and Level Flight PROHIBITED

Last edited by terryscustom; 01-27-2014 at 02:11 PM.
terryscustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 02:07 PM   #4
Cryhavoc38
Go Hawks!
 
Cryhavoc38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Woodinville, WA
Age: 48
Posts: 4,180
Default

Watched Kyle W do lots of low and slow 3D with his 40% Carden IMAC/Freestyle plane
__________________
42% EG Raven - DA-170
30% EG Raven - DLE-55 w/Bowman ring
30% EG Slick 540 - Engine tbd
Cryhavoc38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 02:26 PM   #5
db1331
Super Contributor
 
db1331's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA, SC, Sumter
Posts: 409
Default

Yes , I have had several people 3-D my Cardens and it appears they 3D very well ! right Colton ?
__________________
Dennis Brown
Modern Turf Sod Farm
Carden Extra 300 124 Pro DA 150
Carden Extra 300 124 Pro DA 150L
JR XG 11
db1331 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 04:16 PM   #6
Bunky F. Knuckle
I'm done!!! Your loss!
 
Bunky F. Knuckle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: TFC
Posts: 6,765
Default

Carden's 3D very well!!
__________________
Step into reality, Mr. Keyboard engineer!

Proudly sponsored by www.buddyrc.com
www.taildraggerrc.com
Bunky F. Knuckle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 04:53 PM   #7
ben_beyer
Notorious B.E.N.
 
ben_beyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United States, TX, Canyon
Age: 31
Posts: 3,271
Awards Showcase
F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER!: F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER! - Issue reason: You are BAD ASS, Thank you for supporting the 2009 F3A TEAM USA! 
Total Awards: 1
Send a message via AIM to ben_beyer Send a message via Yahoo to ben_beyer
Default

Well, I'm not asking about any old Carden but the 43% Extra 260/300.
ben_beyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 05:30 PM   #8
kkrogh
Uber Contributor
 
kkrogh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: dickinson, NORTH DAKOTA
Age: 32
Posts: 593
Default

Even better I bet
kkrogh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 08:35 AM   #9
cardenflyer
Bad-ass Super Contributor!
 
cardenflyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Council Bluffs, IA
Age: 26
Posts: 1,192
Default

I've flown the 43% 260 and Edge 540. They fly just like the 40%ers but slower and more stable. 3D Machines!


You see mostly IMAC photos because that is what Carden kind is known for. Plus with as cheap as ARFs are, goes don't like to put the money into building them for just 3d anymore.
__________________
RedwingRC.com
TailDraggerRC.com
Xtreme Graphics
FancyFoam.com
Jake Fahn

Last edited by cardenflyer; 02-11-2014 at 06:36 PM.
cardenflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 09:01 AM   #10
ben_beyer
Notorious B.E.N.
 
ben_beyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United States, TX, Canyon
Age: 31
Posts: 3,271
Awards Showcase
F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER!: F3A TEAM USA SUPPORTER! - Issue reason: You are BAD ASS, Thank you for supporting the 2009 F3A TEAM USA! 
Total Awards: 1
Send a message via AIM to ben_beyer Send a message via Yahoo to ben_beyer
Default

That's very true. When you look at the price of a kit (Carden, Dalton, etc.), plus it has to be built and there aren't a lot of people that build their own (which isn't something to be ashamed of, I fly ARFs too), it doesn't make sense financially.

I'm building a Dalton 300 right now just because I like to build but I guarantee you that if I'm hovering and the engine coughs or something like that, my behind is going to clinch up so tight I could turn coal into diamonds.
ben_beyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 09:17 AM   #11
vmceachern
You can't fix STUPID
 
vmceachern's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas City, Tx
Age: 51
Posts: 3,781
Default

You can't put a price on pride!
vmceachern is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2014, 07:52 PM   #12
Flynbulldog
Doo It! Doo It!
 
Flynbulldog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 222
Default

The cool thing about building is that you can design and build the flying surfaces any way you want. When built to plan any carden will 3D well (not sure about the pro - it may have smaller control surfaces) but I've always modified mine and when the surfaces are made a bit bigger with more throw most any Carden is as good as anything out there and better than most.

It's a shame that the trend these days is to castrate most Cardens in the name of precision. I have my doubts about how effective that really is. If I do build another one it will be full-on 3D capable and I assure you it will still be very capable and competitive in IMAC.

I think freestyle (not necessarily 3D) should be required and figure as a portion of your overall score in IMAC competitions just like it is in full scale IAC contests. Precision is only half of a pilots skill set in my eyes and 3D can be made precise and controlled as well.
__________________
Desert Aircraft Engines

Team JR
Flynbulldog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2014, 09:23 PM   #13
sensei
Super Weight Freak
 
sensei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Antonio Texas
Age: 58
Posts: 2,922
Awards Showcase
Norm Abrams Master Craftsman Award: Master Craftsman. Simply an amazing builder! - Issue reason: Your the man when it comes to Balsa 
Total Awards: 1
Default

I agree, Carden's 3D with the best of them.

Bob
Attached Thumbnails
  • Click image for larger version

Name:	user11948_pic937_1235655050.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	11.7 KB
ID:	624574 11.7 KB · Views: 34

sensei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2014, 03:10 AM   #14
pcastine
Approaching critical AoA...
 
pcastine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: France, IdF, Le Chesnay
Posts: 1,339
Default

I have the 126" Extra 300 set up primarily for IMAC, but I do have pretty good sized control surfaces (not huge) and I'm using 1.75 servo arms. My CG is pretty far forward. With this set up, the plane 3D's pretty well. It really locks into a torqueroll, and it pretty near harrier rolls itself. It wont flatten out well in a spin, and doesn't tumble all that well - but I think that is because of my nose heavy setup. The huge wing with thick airfoil makes slow high alpha a breeze.

Some day I'll strap a chunk of lead to the tail and see what she'll do.

Pete
__________________
Half this hobby is ninety nine percent mental.
pcastine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2014, 08:45 AM   #15
Snuts
Doo It! Doo It!
 
Snuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 287
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by ben_beyer
View Post
I was over at the Carden Aircraft site looking at the plane pics in their gallery. I find it's a good place for scheme ideas or just inspiration.

In looking at the 126" Extra 300/260 gallery, I noticed most of the planes are set up for IMAC. However, I was wondering if anyone has ever seen one doing some 3D?

About answers that.

-Snuts-
__________________
After flying the same brand of radio for over 20yrs confidently. Why would I think of changing, and go looking for trouble.
Snuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:10 AM.

All Flyinggiants.com content copyright 2006-2014 by RCGroups.com, LLC except where otherwise indicated. The Flyinggiants.com logo is a trademark of RCGroups.com, LLC.
Please report any misuse of our trademarks or copyright violations using the contact form.
RCGroups Network :: RCGroups :: The E Zone :: Lift Zone :: RC Power :: Crackroll :: RC Cars

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.