Discussion A very unhappy dla customer

[bbrown2828]

ok well I talked to Bobby at Delta Rc Engines and He has had this problem on a few other engines and said when the engines first came out they had a problem with Tolerances on the lugs and that some of the engines the lugs where off buy a couple of thousandants but he told me to send bout engines to him and they would be fixed

[sherman89]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bbrown2828
	ok well I talked to Bobby at Delta Rc Engines and He has had this problem on a few other engines and said when the engines first came out they had a problem with Tolerances on the lugs and that some of the engines the lugs where off buy a couple of thousandants but he told me to send bout engines to him and they would be fixed

After you get the new cases installed ZI would recommend an aluminum back plate to take the vibration from the motor. I had to do this with a 3W-110 on the long stand-offs on a H9 Extra 260. After the plate was installed no more problems.

[bbrown2828]

Hey man show me some pictures of what you where talking about on the backplate

[sherman89]

I do not have the plane but it is really simple ----get a 3/8" aluminum plate cut to shape to match the stand-off's---drill holes on the 4 corners for the stand-off bolts to go through from the motor mount. The aluminum plate takes the vibration and keeps the motor mounts from breaking.

[bbrown2828]

so the holes drilled the bolts go threw the motor lugs thur the the alumin backplate and then into standoffs and then I guess i have to drill a big whole for the carb to go though

[reyn3545]

When you get the motor repaired, just take a dremmel with a metal file on it, and carefully file the "L" off of the logo on the cylinder head. it will start on the 3rd flip and run flawlessly for years!

Sorry... couldn't resist.

[sherman89]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bbrown2828
	so the holes drilled the bolts go threw the motor lugs thur the the alumin backplate and then into standoffs and then I guess i have to drill a big whole for the carb to go though

Yes, if you have rear carb a large hole will be needed. I had both plates---one with the hole to lighten it and another without the hole---I could not tell the difference.

[chumley]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bbrown2828
	so the holes drilled the bolts go threw the motor lugs thur the the alumin backplate and then into standoffs and then I guess i have to drill a big whole for the carb to go though

You might want to consider a GravyGoodness mount. He machines aluminum that will replace your standoffs so you will have no extra stresses on your lugs - probably never have any problem again.

Gravy will custom make a mount to your specs. Here is a photo of mine on my 100cc (DLE111) Red Aero MX2:

[bbrown2828]

To Bad that the one DA I had didnt run worth a **** and I sold it lol

	Quote: Originally Posted by reyn3545
	When you get the motor repaired, just take a dremmel with a metal file on it, and carefully file the "L" off of the logo on the cylinder head. it will start on the 3rd flip and run flawlessly for years! Sorry... couldn't resist.

[Mithrandir]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Stu_D
	Warranty problems for consumers (see us ) in a small market like Australia is a big problem . If we have a product defect and with NO "Lemon Laws" to back us up we are mostly told "too bad , you should of read the fine print" . .

The "Chinese Warrenty"

if it breaks in two... you get to keep both parts

[a1pcfixer]

	Quote: Originally Posted by reyn3545
	When you get the motor repaired, just take a dremmel with a metal file on it, and carefully file the "L" off of the logo on the cylinder head. it will start on the 3rd flip and run flawlessly for years! Sorry... couldn't resist.

LOL

-OR- if your on a budget, grind off the 'A'.

I have a DL50 that's going on 5 years old and never had any troubles from it. Only changed the plug a couple times.

Buy cheap, get stung, move along.

There's plenty more cheap Chinese clones of a clone of a duplicate to go around.........

1. 3MM Now TMM (Three Mountain Motors, Shenzhen SDS Electric Co., Ltd)
2. Aerovate (Same as RCGF)
3. CRRC - 26, 40, 45, 50, 55 twin (Shenzhen SDS Electric Co., Ltd , Shenzhen, Guangdong, China )
4. B&D
5. DJ - 80, (Shenzhen SDS Electric Co., Ltd , Shenzhen, Guangdong, China)
6. DLA (made by Xian Fei ao Model)
7. DL / DLE (Mile Hao Xiang Model Technology Co., Ltd , Honghe, Yunnan, China)
8. DM (made by SV)
9. DMSS
10. DZY (Zhejiang Shengqi Motion Apparatus Co., Ltd. ,Zhejiang,China)
11. EME (DLE Clone)
12. ET
13. FTL (RCG, RCGF, made by RCGF??)
14. GRPro
15. GP (Fergus Lin) NEW (These are made in Taiwan)
16. HH (another ZJ engine - same origins as RCGF)
17. JBA (Xiangtan Jiangnan Model Engine Co.,Ltd. , Xiangtan City, Hunan , China )
18. JC ( Snake oil )
19. MLD ( Same as SPE,)
20. MT (Tomy Chen)
21. NGH - (Jinzhou Linghai Guanghua Ngh Technica - Linghai, Liaoning, China)
22. Peak (RCGF/RCG??)
23. Pte (Pterodactyl - apparently a crank and head from SV. Who makes the rest? )
24. QJ (Qiangjin Mechanic Ltd, Linyi, Shandong China)
25. RCG (same as RCGF)
26. RCGF (Zhejiang RCGF Model&Engine Co.,Ltd, Longyou City, Zhejiang China )
27. Red Lion (SV origins??)
28. REV (Same engine as JC Engines)
29. SE (same as DLA - Xian Fei ao Model)
30. SPE ( Same as MLD, )
31. SV - 17, 26, 50 twin, 50.8, 80, 90, 100 twin, 157 twin, 163 twin, 183 twin, 210 twin (Hangzhou SV Industry Co., Ltd. , Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China)
32. TGY (Turnigy? A rebrand of FTL??)
33. Turnigy (TGY - HH, FTL, RCG, RCGF)
34. XL (DLE clone, Senye International Trading Co., Ltd. )
35. XYZ (Quzhou Jinnuo Machinery Co.,Ltd, Quzhou, Zhejiang China)
36. YDA (made by SV for JC Engines for RC Aero??)

{Thanks to Whistling Death for the list}

[reyn3545]

Wow... now there's a family tree with suprizingly few branches! I wonder if they play banjo music at the factory for motivation?

[pryor808]

I have a #11 (EME55) with a DLE55 crank. It ran good on the bench. I will put it in an airframe soon.

[a1pcfixer]

	Quote: Originally Posted by reyn3545
	Wow... now there's a family tree with suprizingly few branches!

It's worse than that. Think of inbreeding a small group of cousins and you'll get a better grasp of it.
Thanks to past efforts of Jedijody & other current DLE dealers, DLE has a rather decent customer support, better than most in that list. They're not ALL bad, but watch yourselves.

Some claim one (or more) in that list have (rejected?) parts in theirs which came from DLE, just re-branded. One guy found "DLE" stamped on some internal parts, another popped off a brand badge from the outside of his eng to find another brand name underneath!

You want quality, you pay for it.
You want cheap.....you get cheap junk, and pay for such later on.

[bbrown2828]

well I can say the dealer I buy my dla 56 from has allways had great customer support... He he sending me the cases at no Charge