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Old 11-06-2006, 09:24 PM   #16
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Default Re: 2007 IMAC sequences (written descriptions)

In the Basic sequence the tear drop description seems like there might be a half roll left out. Could this be ?
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:39 PM   #17
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No half roll in the Aresti.....

are you talking about figure 4?
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:47 PM   #18
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What an over achiever.
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Old 11-06-2006, 11:26 PM   #19
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You are absolutely right Judge it is very important to learn how to read Aresti. I personally prefer my caller to read a written description for me that i write out in the way i like the manouver to be called but thats just me. I do enjoy sitting down deciphering the Aresti.
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I strongly encourage everyone to learn to read Aresti. Written narratives are a recipe for disaster. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen a pilot get all twisted up by a caller trying to read a written narrative.

Aresti is SO simple, and even fun, and it is a skill all aerobatic pilots should have.
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:55 AM   #20
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thanks wayne - we need this for the newbies and yes they still have to learn to read the aresti!!
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:21 AM   #21
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:01 PM   #22
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Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
I strongly encourage everyone to learn to read Aresti. Written narratives are a recipe for disaster. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen a pilot get all twisted up by a caller trying to read a written narrative.

Aresti is SO simple, and even fun, and it is a skill all aerobatic pilots should have.
Well, I agree everyone should learn Aresti, but I'm curious how a caller would convey Aresti notation to the pilot without mentally converting it to a narrative first. You know, sorta like all the DJs saying "the artist formally known as Prince".

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Old 11-07-2006, 01:04 PM   #23
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its weird... but for me , reading Aresti is easier...
it is much easier to visualize what is going on while calling, or judging....

a quick glance and you know where the pilot is...with text,,, you have to read throguh and find your spot....
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:11 PM   #24
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Quote: Originally Posted by exeter_acres
its weird... but for me , reading Aresti is easier...
it is much easier to visualize what is going on while calling, or judging....

a quick glance and you know where the pilot is...with text,,, you have to read throguh and find your spot....
Exactly.
I have a hard time calling for anyone who has it written out and has to hear it verbatim.
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The reason for this is that you can "see it" and "say it" much faster than you can "read it & say it". Also, written narratives do not tell you direction to go. Ask QQ how that works out!! 8 very nice zeros for exiting a figure the wrong directon at the final TOC.

Aresti is easy and powerful. I really cannot understand why anyone would NOT want to use it!!
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In the sportsman #10 reads Aerobatic Turn. Can you give a discription of that term?
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:50 AM   #27
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An aerobatic turn is a turn that has a a bank angle of at least 60 degree and no more the 90 degrees. You have to establish your angle, turn your plane the desired degrees, 90, 180, 270, or 360 holding the angle, then return wings to level.
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Yep....

Her is the description straight from the rule book:

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In aerobatic competition, a turn is divided into three parts:
1) Establishing the bank using a roll on heading.
2) The turn itself.
3) A roll back to straight and level flight on heading.
Let’s look at the turn during each of these three parts.
First, the roll to establish the bank. This must be a roll of between 60
and 90 degrees, it must be performed on the entry heading, and the
aircraft must maintain a constant horizontal line.
Once the roll is completed and the angle of bank is established, the
competitor immediately performs the turn. The turn must maintain
the established angle of bank throughout. The aircraft must also
maintain horizontal flight. The rate of turn is constant throughout and
the maneuver must be wind corrected so that, for instance, a 360 degree
turn will be a perfect circle. It should be noted that the wind
correction cannot be performed by visibly changing the bank angle.
As soon as the aircraft is on the exit heading, the competitor performs
another roll at a rate equal to the entry roll. Again, the aircraft must
maintain a constant horizontal line.
Downgrades:
a) The angle of bank established by the initial rolling maneuver
must be at least 60 degrees. Any less is a one (1) point deduction
for every ten (10) degrees.
b) The angle of bank, once established, must remain constant. Any
deviation is a one (1) point deduction for every ten (10) degrees
of deviation.
c) The rate of roll must be the same for the entry and exit rolls of
this figure. Any deviation is a one (1) point deduction.
d) The aircraft must maintain a constant altitude throughout the
figure. Any variation would be one (1) point for every ten (10)
degrees of change.
e) The rate of turn must remain constant. Any change would be
not more than a one (1) point deduction for each change. Note
that the rate of turn may appear to change in a strong wind,
when it really isn’t changing. The judges must always keep the
wind in mind and give the pilot the benefit of the doubt if there
is any question.
f) The aircraft must begin and end on the prescribed heading. Any
deviation is a one (1) point deduction for every ten (10) degrees
of deviation.

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Old 11-10-2006, 03:57 AM   #30
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Hi Wayne,

thanks for the info.
do you have a PDF file or something with the aresti drawings?

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