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Old 07-26-2013, 05:13 AM
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It will never be the same unless everyone flys freestyle that competes. THE EVENT COMBINES BOTH SCORES!!! GET RID OF THE SLOP!!!!! Most of us are over the FREESTYLE ONLY competitors. Lets get back to the real pilots. If you want to see a good throw down go to a huckfest. I dont think we need a millionare. We need quality competition. Thats what the TOC was all about.
(cough, cough....Clover Creek Invitational)
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:26 AM
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It will never be the same unless everyone flys freestyle that competes. THE EVENT COMBINES BOTH SCORES!!! GET RID OF THE SLOP!!!!! Most of us are over the FREESTYLE ONLY competitors. Lets get back to the real pilots. If you want to see a good throw down go to a huckfest. I dont think we need a millionare. We need quality competition. Thats what the TOC was all about.
That would be awesome! I love to watch all these old videos! Believe me nothing but respect for the way these kids can't fling an airplane! But man these guys really can fly! Remember they were by today's standards underpowered both in engine and servos! It's incredible what they did!

Watch the video of that weeks solution and watch the spin entry that is a very scale almost perfect entry but if we did that in iMac it would be downgraded so much!
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:28 AM
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My pops that built that airplane just talked to Wayne and dean still has that airplane and Wayne still has a never flown 50% weeks sitting in his attic!
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:25 AM
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Everyone in favor of reinstituting the TOC raise your right hand and say "AYE"


now... where do we get a millionaire RC Dork with money burning a hole in his pocket???

ps... I get the NX!!
AYE, AYE, AYE, AYE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh ya, the car kicked a$$ sitting next to the Circus Circus motorhome too
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:48 AM
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His own design later kitted by Pirate Models
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:09 AM
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Anyone who has more info about Dave Von Linsowe's blue and white Extra 260 ? Would love to build one �� , thanks, Bruno .
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:15 AM
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What a great thread!!! Makes me nostalgic and a bit sad. I might have to go dig out all of my TOC pics. Great memories of a lot of great friends, great flying at the worlds greatest RC event ever held!
I really miss those few weeks in the fall when we could go to the desert and focus 100% on nothing but flying. I always felt each TOC made me a better pilot than I though I could be. From my '92 Staduacher - "UGLIEST airplane ever flown at the TOC (Thanks Doug) to my '02 Carden Extra 330S (still around as far as I know), the models just kept getting better and better.

I remember as a kid looking at the early TOCs in magazines and idolizing those guys. One of the most surreal moments I think I ever experienced at the TOC was sitting in my pit spot and thinking 'wow, I'm here pitting right beside Wolfgang Matt!' He was one of those guys I idolized! And I was beating him which was pretty cool too ;-)
But seriously I feel very lucky to have been part of the last 8 TOCs that were held. GREAT, GREAT memories!
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:21 AM
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It was even better to find out that Wolfgang was a really nice guy too.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:23 AM
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Yes it was Doug. Same with just about everyone!
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:28 AM
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And Wolfgang is STILL competing at a world class level in F3A! He is a true RC aerobatic icon!
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:39 AM
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Yes it was Doug. Same with just about everyone!
That's the truth. For me, that moment was the first time I met Giichi Naruke, who I'd idolized and as a kid I'd dreamed about building one of his airplanes, and Ivan Kristensen, whose airplane I DID build and fly, and how really friendly everybody was at this event.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:11 PM
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I Was there, you were absolutely fantastic on the freestyle rounds... Fu.. Dual rates...

Before that round I was sure you'll get the big pot..

Awesome pics.
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I remember that one.

"Where`s the Kaboom? There`s supposed to be an earthshattering kaboom!"
We helped JAS go pick it up....with a shovel.
Kinda sucked for him but it was awesome for the spectators.

Sorry Jason. Couldn`t resist.
Yea, and that wasn't the biggest thing on my mind. My grandfather and aunt had just come out on Wednesday to watch a bit of the afternoon flying, then Thursday, no one showed up, but my dad in the afternoon. Friday my dad finally pulled me aside after the round (I knew something was up, my grandfather doesn't just show-up to the TOC and NOT come out to watch) and told me my grandfather had a heart attack Wednesday night and was in the hospital. Almost didn't show up on Saturday, didn't care about flying at that point. But with his quadruple by-pass, he's still flying today, at 92.

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What was awesome was Jason being a man and getting up there in front of everyone telling all of us in the crowd that it was totally his fault because he was in the wrong dual rate.
It was funny, going to walk out to the crash, how many times I had to explain that it was because of ME that I crashed, not my radio's fault.

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I was wondering how long before somebody brought this up! One of the classic TOC "thumps".
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Nah.. that wasn't even Jason's best! His best by far was in.. 96 I think? In the middle of his free, he turned around to ask his caller Ryan to tell him what the airplane was doing. Jason was going to do a 'no look' maneuver of some sort I think.

Ryan responded with something like "Um.. What?" and before Jason could turn back around the airplane hit the trees.. People tried some funny stuff at the TOC for sure.

And OH MAN.. Those TREES! Unless you ever had to go out there.. you have NO IDEA how hard it is to find things out there. We pulled several airplanes out of that swamp over the years and each time it was an adventure. Basically as soon as you hit the tree line, the ground sloped down about 10 feet, and they were CRAZY thick, so you could walk right by the airplane and not see it.
That 96 crash was my 'best' dumb-thumbs ever. But with a 0 for the first round and a horrible 2nd round score, I couldn't go any lower in the standings. I think I bounced back ok though lol.

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It will never be the same unless everyone flys freestyle that competes. THE EVENT COMBINES BOTH SCORES!!! GET RID OF THE SLOP!!!!! Most of us are over the FREESTYLE ONLY competitors. Lets get back to the real pilots. If you want to see a good throw down go to a huckfest. I dont think we need a millionare. We need quality competition. Thats what the TOC was all about.
How about we have to get 'legal' 3-views that the organization has approved, with +/-10% limits already given to make the airplanes conform to, AND we MUST use the same plane in the Known, Unknown AND FREESTYLE!!!!! Now that will make it fun again
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:33 PM
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..........................How about we have to get 'legal' 3-views that the organization has approved, with +/-10% limits already given to make the airplanes conform to, AND we MUST use the same plane in the Known, Unknown AND FREESTYLE!!!!! Now that will make it fun again
in my unimportant and uninformed opinion.... the next step is to totally abandon the scale requirement... implement something like a 3.5m x 3.5m box size limitation with a 60 pound
weight limit.. (Similar concept to FAI F3A) and add non-scale maneuvers to the catalog... (Similar to F3A)

the scale thing is just holding back what "Could" be...

oh... and yes... one plane for all rounds... Known, Unknown and Free....

and NO GYROS!!!!

('Cept at the Snack Bar!!!)
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:48 PM
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I agree actually with removing the 'scale' limitation. We have IMAC for that. I'd love to see what can be done with large, aerobatic designs with no limitations. But yes, one airplane for known, unknown, and 4-minute. I'd just keep the 55 pound weight limit, and remove all other restrictions.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:00 PM
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Anyone who has more info about Dave Von Linsowe's blue and white Extra 260 ? Would love to build one �� , thanks, Bruno .
When I saw Dave fly his Dead Stick routine at the '92 TOC, I had to have one. The plane was a semi kit that had the wings jig built with foam ribs and fully sheeted and the fuse needing built. I enjoyed building the plane, but most of all, I enjoyed this great flying plane for the 8 yrs that I flew it. I sold it and regretted afterwards. Plane never flew again by it's new owner.
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