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Old 01-22-2013, 12:15 PM
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they were on a runway, no matter the circumstance....it was a stupid stunt
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:36 PM
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This really depends on the circumstance.

If it was a bunch of knobs rolling around on the runway and the pilot was "kind of aware of their presence" then it's stupid and should not be applauded.

If this was a practice for a show where the positions are relatively calculated and rehearsed in a pre-flight briefing and the stunt is repeated with all the calculations in place, then WOW.. brave guys...

That being said.. What's that saying? There are smart, old air show pilots, but no wreckless, old air show pilots? Or something like that?
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:11 PM
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Looked thrilling. I doubt it was unplanned. Pilot has skills.
I agree. I think it's pretty cool actually.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:18 PM
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Your standing on a runway. Kinda like standing on a railroad track. I could care less if an airshow performer wants to put his or her life on the line. But taking someone else with them is not cool at all. If its all part of the show then I guess its cool.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:24 PM
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stupid.....planned or not, the risk everyone in that vid was put at is too great. suppose it sells copy when it goes bad tho.....
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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Hummm,

Been going to airshows for some 40 years now.
I think the basic question in any airshow stunt is risk assessment.
Typically if its the pilot risking his skills against the ground - that's OK.
I don't think its OK - to risk oneself against another person on the ground.
Now I did like the low pass - the quads I find extremely boring.
It reminds me of mixing RC cars and airplanes - LAME is doesnt work and it bores the hell outof crowd!

Whomever thought this up was LAME!
They are missing the main point of an Airshow - the crowd came to see airplanes not some
lame ass bunch of quads and crotch rockets you see everyday.
Sorry folks thats my opnion/

Reminds of an airshow we did a few years back they had some guy that was supposed to pull a firetruck with some kind of harness on. They crowd didnt know what was going on. Rather pisspoor planning and just plain lame ass idea. They guy never came back to the pull thing again.

Airplanes belong at an airshow - give the crowd what they want.

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Old 01-22-2013, 01:29 PM
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This really depends on the circumstance.

If it was a bunch of knobs rolling around on the runway and the pilot was "kind of aware of their presence" then it's stupid and should not be applauded.

If this was a practice for a show where the positions are relatively calculated and rehearsed in a pre-flight briefing and the stunt is repeated with all the calculations in place, then WOW.. brave guys...

That being said.. What's that saying? There are smart, old air show pilots, but no wreckless, old air show pilots? Or something like that?
It is a group of people on motorcycles and four wheelers. They are practicing for a demo. Circus of the Machines.
Remington Dallas Stunt Riderz and Viper Airshows are Circus of The Machines (7 min 2 sec)
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:13 PM
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That being said.. What's that saying? There are smart, old air show pilots, but no wreckless, old air show pilots? Or something like that?
The expression I've heard goes like this...

"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but, there aren't many old bold pilots"

Cheers,
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:05 PM
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Comments posted in that LL vid thread

"First off this isn't a fake video,all the proper precautions were taken. We were all practicing for a stunt show coming soon (stay tuned). I am the girl who recorded this video and he had already taken 3 or 4 passes down the runway so we knew what to expect. I screamed because it was a huge adrenaline rush and it was badass to experience that The pilot is a professional and knows what he's doing. So point is we weren't being "stupid idiots playing on a runway where we weren't supposed to be" we had every right to be there and like I said we took all the safety precautions and made sure no planes were landing/taking off on the runway while we were practicing. The whole time is was a controlled environment. "
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:12 PM
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Hi ,
I like ;
" we took all the safety precautions and made sure no planes were landing/taking off on the runway while we were practicing."

OMG , you really mean this right ?
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:30 PM
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Lancaster has an aerobatic box. Jason has a surface waiver. It's the same way at the airport I fly out of. When the box is available the surface waivered guys come out to play and practice their show routines. If anyone is departing or arriving, the tower advises the aerobatic pilot to get out of the way so her comment isn't all that silly.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:39 PM
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Lancaster has an aerobatic box. Jason has a surface waiver. It's the same way at the airport I fly out of. When the box is available the surface waivered guys come out to play and practice their show routines. If anyone is departing or arriving, the tower advises the aerobatic pilot to get out of the way so her comment isn't all that silly.

Okey let me rethink ..... mmmmmhh .... yes it IS !
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:53 PM
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I understand the airshow/everyone knows thing. There is still a risk here that is just not acceptable to me. gust of wind, one of the people on the ground movin the wrong way.....dead air pocket. too many ways to get killed in that scenario. any one of the three could cause fatal accident for two at least.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:57 PM
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I understand the airshow/everyone knows thing. There is still a risk here that is just not acceptable to me. gust of wind, one of the people on the ground movin the wrong way.....dead air pocket. too many ways to get killed in that scenario. any one of the three could cause fatal accident for two at least.
Oh well , there still young , hopefully they survive , come to their senses and learn their kids never to try this again
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