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Old 09-21-2016, 09:37 PM
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I'll buy the 200 off of you.. Pm me if you want to talk..
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:04 PM
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Thanks to everyone for understanding the loss. The PAU Dalton is a great aircraft. Herve and Tony have a great product. I only wish I had more time with the PAU Dalton. I am sure I would have won many contests with that plane. I purchased the Jeti to provide ultimate protection for my investment as well as telemetry data. I have not experienced radio failure in over twenty years of flying. The old cristal receivers used to fail all the time and we would send them to Pratville Alabama for repair. ARF aircraft were not available then. You built every plane from a kit. There is no worse feeling than making an input to a flying plane with no response. It's a sick feeling. Jeti needs to help solve this crash with me. I will never fly another plane with that radio without finding the smoking gun. JR has never failed me. I have a 12 X. I sure wished I had used it.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:10 PM
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I used to work for the FAA. I am a school trained and experienced accident investigator. The data from my investigation points to Jeti. Either the radio,the receiver, or Tech Aero IBEC.
If anyone has any factual data about other Jeti failures, please post.
If anyone has experienced a loss of control while using IBEC, please post.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:11 PM
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The DA 200 is I route to DA for repair. This is why I use DA. Support is out of this world.....
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:12 PM
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I looked up this NRCAIB and I do not see you as a lead investigator sir. Please show some credentials please sir.
That's because I just started this organization. Lol
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:14 PM
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I hate to see that Dave. Very sorry.
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Thanks Larry. Next pull to the.Vertical. On the upline, do a two of Four piont roll.
Lol. Look forward to the next contest we are at together.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:17 AM
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Hello there,
I know the smash was pretty bad. Are there enough parts of the RX left to see if it still works ( connect it up to a battery) and see if the RX and TX still talk to each other? It would be a good starting point for any investigation.

I check my fail safe on the first flight of the day (every session). I move all the controls hard over, then switch the TX to off and check all controls return to centre, the throttle closes and ignition switches off ( I've got the ignition circuit on a LED). There's a million theory's about which are the best "fail
Safe conditions", but clearly engine power reduction to at least idle is a must.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:06 AM
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The DA 200 is I route to DA for repair. This is why I use DA. Support is out of this world.....
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:28 AM
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Hello there,
I know the smash was pretty bad. Are there enough parts of the RX left to see if it still works ( connect it up to a battery) and see if the RX and TX still talk to each other? It would be a good starting point for any investigation.

I check my fail safe on the first flight of the day (every session). I move all the controls hard over, then switch the TX to off and check all controls return to centre, the throttle closes and ignition switches off ( I've got the ignition circuit on a LED). There's a million theory's about which are the best "fail
Safe conditions", but clearly engine power reduction to at least idle is a must.
Way ahead of you. Done, it works fine. Jeti is going to help determine the condition of my radio and receiver. If that checks out, IBEC is the likely smoking gun.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:19 AM
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Hello there
You said you had two batteries. Did these feed through one or two regulators (IBECs) are you able to check the IBEC?
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:39 AM
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So as someone who flys jeti and almost the exact setup... Have you sent James or ZB the logs? If so which one? Can you forward a copy for me to look at? What firmware revision? How was the tecaero hooked up? A Y between it and the 2 ignition boxes?
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:25 AM
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I wouldn't get too exited at this stage. Despite being written in the guise of a full investigation, I'm sure there are keys parts of the write up that are missing. The opening statement of radio installation described two batteries, two receivers but alludes to a single IBEC.
I've just googled the IBEC and it's a $40 item!
I'd be using Smartfly, Powerbox, or some other brand ( and a pair of them).
I also doubt the part about having telemetry to the point of the crash.

Happy to eat own words and reexamine if twin IBECs, with one to each RX was used.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:47 AM
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Really hurts to see this. Sorry for your loss.
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:04 AM
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You guy's that leading down the road of bashing a tech-aero IBEC for this issue but had to google what it is.....you have no clue.

Extremely unlikely that the IBEC's were the issue. Switches of any form are more likely to fail than a tech-aero. However I will say however that it should have used two IBEC's (one for each ignition).
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:16 AM
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All things can fail, the Tech-aero ibec has several filters to prevent a failure.
However if it was the tech-aero, there is most likely another cause. Typically if an ibec is going bad it won't provide power to the ignition or the motor will run rough.
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