That sums it up Josh. Thanks for this post!

Matt

Originally Posted by Josh Price

Someday we will know, where the pilots go
When their work on earth is through.
Where the air is clean, and the engines gleam,
And the skies are always blue.
They have flown alone, with the engine's moan,
As they sweat the great beyond,
And they take delight, at the awesome sight
of the world spread far and yon.

Yet not alone, for above the moan, when the earth is
out of sight,
As they make their stand, He takes their hand,
and guides them through the night.
How near to God are these men of sod,
Who step near death's last door?
Oh, these men are real, not made of steel,
But He knows who goes before,

And how they live, and love and are beloved,
But their love is most for air.
And with death about, they will still fly out,
And leave their troubles there.
He knows these things, of men with wings,
And He knows they are surely true.
And He will give a hand, to such a man
'Cause He's a pilot too.

— Leo Hymas.
God speed Bryan

At first when I saw the video it appeared that the aircraft would normally have recovered right before the inverted spin. However, watching the video and numerous other videos from his routine it appears that coming out of the Lomcevak Bryan would exit 180 degrees from the entrance heading. Looks like the secondary stall/spin happened where he was wanting to exit the maneuver but due to the excessive altitude loss from the unintentional inverted spin it may have resulted in a more aggressive recovery resulting in the secondary stall/spin. Just another possibility. Horrible thing. Bryan will be missed.

All my toughts go to these unlucky pilots ! Sad days !

Originally Posted by Josh Price

Someday we will know, where the pilots go
When their work on earth is through.
Where the air is clean, and the engines gleam,
And the skies are always blue.
They have flown alone, with the engine's moan,
As they sweat the great beyond,
And they take delight, at the awesome sight
of the world spread far and yon.

Yet not alone, for above the moan, when the earth is
out of sight,
As they make their stand, He takes their hand,
and guides them through the night.
How near to God are these men of sod,
Who step near death's last door?
Oh, these men are real, not made of steel,
But He knows who goes before,

And how they live, and love and are beloved,
But their love is most for air.
And with death about, they will still fly out,
And leave their troubles there.
He knows these things, of men with wings,
And He knows they are surely true.
And He will give a hand, to such a man
'Cause He's a pilot too.

— Leo Hymas.
God speed Bryan

RIP Bryan. It does look like something happened in flight. Maybe a stuck stick or cable broke. From the video it looks he was trying to pull but possibly the rudder stuck and it just would not come out because of some malfunction. Sad to see.

Today in Poland crashed 2 small civil planes and glider - in short time - what is going on ?

Originally Posted by eheliflyer

Very painful to watch 2.5 min go by before the first fire truck got to the crash area. Slow response in my opinion.

Not to be gruesome, but there's nothing the rescue crews could have done in Bryan's case. He was gone the moment he hit the ground.

Originally Posted by Shaker

Not to be gruesome, but there's nothing the rescue crews could have done in Bryan's case. He was gone the moment he hit the ground.

Agreed. Like you said, not to be gruesome or even insensitive, but the impact could hardly be survivable. At least everyone knows he did not suffer.

Another bad day today. Todd Green fell to his death from John Moehr's Stearman while attempting a wing walking transfer from the Stearman to a helicopter at the selfridge airshow.

I'm going to find a hole and go hide in it for awhile....

Originally Posted by Mike Busutil

I'm going to find a hole and go hide in it for awhile....

Make room for me. Maybe Wesse can bring some jalapenos.

Originally Posted by MX304

Another bad day today. Todd Green fell to his death from John Moehr's Stearman while attempting a wing walking transfer from the Stearman to a helicopter at the selfridge airshow.

That's another disturbing video to watch.

why would someone want to watch it ?

Originally Posted by SpartanExec

Make room for me. Maybe Wesse can bring some jalapenos.

That coluld be explosive.

HARRISON TWP., Mich. -- A stunt man at the Selfridge Air Show fell hundreds of feet to the ground Sunday as he attempted to go from a plane to a helicopter, according to a spokesman for Selfridge Air National Guard Base.

Technical Sgt. Dan Heaton said Todd Green fell about 200 feet to the ground while performing at about 1:30 p.m.

Green was taken to Mount Clemens Regional Medical Center, where he later died.

Green is a Michigan native who started performing aerial stunts over a quarter century ago. Green is the son of legendary hall of fame aerial stunt man Eddie the Grip Green. Todd is one of the only two second generation aerial stunt men in the airshow business. He has performed at airshows across the country and in Canada and has worked with many of the greatest pilots. His current act involves him literally leaping from the an open cockpit of John Mohr's original stock stearman Bi-Plane to the skid of Otto the Helicopter.

He was married with two children.