Originally Posted by Dave_ORCC

I can imagine the rolling circle elements would also be kinda tough with respect to timing etc. Although I'd imagine you use some reference points on the ground to help out.

Rolling turns also benefit from a lot of practice and developing some internal timing. But with these, you can typically pick up a ground reference at some point for the status of the roller. A lot of it is about looking in the right places at the right time, and of course developing enough comfort level with the stick and rudder inputs so that your brain can devote some resources to keeping track of your turn rate and hitting the key points so that you simultaneously end the roll and turn exactly on heading without having to vary your turn rate, roll rate, or trying to rudder it around at the last second.

Originally Posted by RetroAcro

, or trying to rudder it around at the last second.

LOL

I've NEVER had to do that while flying IMAC

Cheers,
Dave

ps: I see Rob Holland viewing this thread. Nice flying, Rob !!

I have heard rollers "In" are easier for the big boys than rollers out.... funny... most Rc guys I know feel the opposite!

I seem to prefer rollers "Left"... either in or out... just left!


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When I fly big boy I prefer in to the left and out to the right ,because i think it´s more easy and natural to pusk the stick to the left than pulling it to the right

Originally Posted by Mithrandir

I have heard rollers "In" are easier for the big boys than rollers out.... funny... most Rc guys I know feel the opposite!

Mith....I had the same experience in RC. Maybe it's because in full scale one generally learns their first 90 degree rollers IN....regardless of roll direction. Rolling out just didn't come as naturally. I think the most awkward was inverted start and rolling out.

In RC rolling out seems easier, but I still manage to screw these up royally .

Rollers are something my fingers just don't want to do. I could do them in my Pitts, but my brain and thumb just will not connect for RC. When sitting in the cock pit we have our orientation normal to the direction the airplane is going. I have always maintained aerobatics in full scale is easier.

Tom

I tend to agree. The nose ALWAYS went the same direction as your foot...! I try stepping on the correct rudder when flying RC and all I get is funny looks

Great flying and footage from the Virginia Beach show last Sunday.

2014 Virginia Beach Patriotic Festival Air Show Rob Holland performance (Sunday) (10 min 34 sec)

Too cool! Get that helmet cam next!
WT

Originally Posted by WangoTango

Too cool! Get that helmet cam next!
WT

Done - Rob's latest video...

Rob Holland, "What I See", Rhode Island 2014 (11 min 59 sec)

Loved the Landing!

Outstanding stick...

Tom

I'm no expert when it comes aerobatic flying but I can appreciate what Rob Holland is capable of in his gorgeous mxs-rh...so innovative in his flight routines.

For all of you full scale aerobatic gurus, how does Rob stack up to the late Renaud Ecalle? Years later I still find Renaud's routines mind blowing...I find the precision aspect of his flying unmatched, even today.

Thoughts?

Incredible!!!!!!

Rob has to be in tip-top shape to put on a show like that for close to 12 minutes!!! Great footage

As far as comparing Rob to Renaud, it's hard to say. Renaud was poetry in motion.....never saw him fly in person, just videos. Sorry to miss that opportunity.

Rob has the world caliber precision and very creative and original maneuvers. A delight to see and he WILL one day be the Unlimited World Champion. He's won the World Free Program twice already.