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Old 01-21-2010, 12:26 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

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There is a slight delay between the rudder and elevator. For me, the purpose of the rudder is to keep the plane's axis in a straight line (at least for rolling harrier type maneuvers). So to the extent that your rudder input produces that effect, you're good .

I just looked at Leseberg's rolling video as well, and his sticks aren't quite as synchronous as I am, and that could well be (and is probably) the better technique.

IMHO, the way to know whether your rudder input is in good rhythm is to slooooow down your roll. Then the imperfections will start to appear. At high rates, the fast roll rate can many times, mask my imperfection / poor technique .

Nice explanation, I will try with low aileron rates and slow rhytm rudder inputs.

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Old 01-21-2010, 12:50 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

Best to start with slow rolls and work up to RH's. At least that's my recommendation.

Good video though.
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:49 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

Well, I thought about trying the rolling harrier on the field today but its to windy..... I still have my flight sim though
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Old 01-21-2010, 04:12 PM
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Ive followed along on RCG for quite some time now. and ive been practicing on foamies. but i will definatly say that josh young's videos tought me what i know today. And if im not quite sure what im doing wrong with a manuever, ide go back and watch the videos. Thanks BoneDoc! your the man!
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:28 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

That's awesome to hear .

BTW, What would you like to see on future 3D Clinics? The only requirement is that it's a maneuver that I can do ... so no rolling harrier loop for now .
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:30 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

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i was wondering when you switched to a hitech Tx/ Rx system and why?
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:44 PM
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I guess I better start practicing then .

I'm in the process of becoming serious in IMAC (sportsman that is... I still suck bad when it comes to drawing straight lines and keeping my wings level), and while you can win with a DX7, I need all the advantage I could get. So after weighing all the options, I chose Hitec. Further discussions on the details can be carried out in a separate thread if you'd like .
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:40 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

If you get RH's down, starting with slow rolls. RH Loops are not that hard. Just takes a bit of timing, and getting the right part of the plane to show at the right time. (IE It won't pull out of the downside of a RH loop sideways)
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:29 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

I've been working on RH's on the sim(it's cold here) I found if I turn the sim speed down it is easier then using less throw(Dual rates) on the surfaces. I still don't have them down yet but I'm getting closer.

thanks Josh your video here and on RCG have helped, as have the explination of the move.

Now if I could even get close with piro flips I'd be golden lol
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Old 01-23-2010, 04:59 PM
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Josh,

Many thanks for the info I've needed to improve to the next level. Very respectful how you always thank your lovely wife also. Your a lucky man
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:22 PM
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:28 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

Thanks for the Videos Josh. Appreciated as always.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:43 AM
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Thanks for the kind words fellas. Inn appreciates them as well. It certainly helps when dragging the family out for an outing either in the 100+ Texan summer, or 30's weather of CO .
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:58 AM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

Well
"UP" "UP""UP"
Elevator is:
"DOWN" "DOWN" "DOWN"
on the Sticks!....

THanks for the vids....

COULD YOU DO A VIDEO OF THE
Noll "WIping SNAKE"
Please??
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:22 PM
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Re: BoneDoc's 3D Clinic - Rolling Harrier Spin / Weeble Wobble

For the REAL men that have LONG thumbs (like myself) JK
I think the gimball sticks are too long, and make for difficulty in these types of <O></O>
Maneuvers so this is what I have done to combat this::::<O></O>
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REDUCE THE EXPO on the ELEVATORS on HIGH RATES>>>><O></O>
The makes it much less difficult to go from extreme up elevator to down elevator<O></O>
with movements of the thumbs.....<O></O>
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I went from not being able to keep the "ROLL"<O></O>
to having Very little difficulty in doing the maneuver....<O></O>
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Hope that gives a-bit of insight to some...<O></O>
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