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Old 09-01-2008, 09:58 PM
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Everybody use my avatar until the election!
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:03 PM
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Great info WANGO!!
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Craven that is just plain..........AWESOME!
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Craven,
You like info on this guy? Hey! I gotta ton of it:

Barack's Cabinet
Confident of a victory in November, Obama has announced his cabinet selections.
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Let me make this perfectly clear....... I ain't no Democrat...... (although I can barely remember a time when it was fashionable to be one) Nah. Can't remember that far back!!

More thoughts from the fertile mind of a wanna-be..........

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.



I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.


I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

Makes ya wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it?









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Old 09-02-2008, 08:15 AM
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Heck yea! Keep bringing it.

And, EVERYBODY SAVE AND USE MY AVATAR UNTIL THE ELECTION!!
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Barack's Cabinet
Confident of a victory in November, Obama has announced his cabinet selections.
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:31 AM
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Craven,
Since we are all on a roll......... BRRRRRIBBIT!! Got this e-mail a while back. This frog got off his lilly pad the minute our military couldn't get out of its own way,(Carter & Clinton years) the minute foreign car commercials were all you'd see in the evening, (Been happening since the mid-70's) the minute them sumbitches crashed those planes and killed our people (We've had a President that at least took the fight to THEIR back yard!) The world is changing alright........ I'm up for bringing back the good old days........... Hell, I'll even watch Bonanza re-runs so I can "See the USA in my CHEVROLET!"
Okay, lets give a listen to the "frog theory." Pretty good read when you consider all this has happened to us gradually......... There are a few "old sage-over 50 types out there that can get this!



THE FROG THEORY

If you drop a frog in boiling water he will leap right out. If you slowly heat the water he will be content until it's too late to get out. That is exactly how history works. It moves slowly and we never really see any danger until it's too late.

Remember how suppressed workers were before unions came along? The unions leveled the playing field. Unfortunately, over a long period of time the pendulum swung too far.
Slowly, businesses and factories closed and jobs left the country. We were comfortable and didn't see the change coming. We blamed everyone except ourselves for what happened. We weren't alert to how slow things change over time.


World War II, and the Korean War, demonstrated how powerful a united nation could be. Our nation, and our families, were united. The father was the head of the family and the President was the head of the nation. Both were highly respected. We were content and happy.

We were good at fighting a hot war but we were unprepared to fight a cold war with the communists in the 50's. They knew they couldn't change us but they didn't care. Their philosophy was to wait it out and capture the minds of our children. They loaded our colleges with many of their professors and waited. It didn't take long to see the results.

The 60''s ushered in the radicals, drug culture, student protesters, and the Vietnam War. The aim of the cold war was to divide and conquer. They divided our families and the nation. The secret to defeating a polite and respectful people is to scream. The louder and longer you scream the better your chance of winning. Radicals are masters at this form of attack. They know if you constantly scream and repeat a lie it will eventually become the truth.

The media, and Hollywood, hammered us with hate America themes and stories. Our service men, and women, were jeered, cursed, and spit on. Even the people, who latter wanted to become their President, thrashed them. We lost our first War in history. T here was no hero's homecoming
for our fighting men and women.


The Reverend King, who was raised in the old school, peacefully changed the race issue and united the people. When he died the new breed of leaders like the Jesse Jackson's, Lewis Farakon's Al Sharpton's, and Rev. Wright's put a lid on his efforts and turned racism into a money making machine.

Corporations were green-mailed by threats of protests, product boycotts, or endless lawsuits. Every issue, large or small, became a race issue. The public recoiled in fear of being called a racist. Their voices were silenced because one word could cost you a career, get you fired, or get you sued.

Even politicians buckled under to the pressure. The Florida legislature issued a formal apology for having slavery 200 years ago. They were thanked by being asked for compensation. There is no end in sight for this kind of nonsense. America didn't capture slaves and bring them to America. Their own people sold them to slave traders from several nations. This knowledge doesn't stop the screamers. History is what it is and you can't change it. There have been many tragic events in history. You acknowledge them and move on.

They divided our nation into two separate Americas. We now have Americans, and African-Americans, although Africa has nothing to do with being an American. You can be one or the other; but, not both. You are what you were born to be. You do not subordinate our country to any foreign nation. It's equivalent to flying the African flag above the Stars and Stripes. If you hyphenate two countries America always comes first.

This election year could be the turning point in our history because the frog theory has come into play. It's time to step back and look at how the country has slowly changed since the cold war started. Don't get caught up in all the hype.

George McGovern was the first Presidential candidate to test the waters with college students. The Clinton's played a big role in his campaign. It was the worst campaign ever run. He was crushed in the election.

Step two was to infiltrate all the information vehicles such as radio, newspapers, magazines, TV and movies. They were quite successful at that. Jimmy Carter was the first President to demonstrate the leadership skills of the far left. Weak military, high taxes, runaway inflation, 19% mortgage rates, and plain incompetence ended his career in Washington. Iran, a small country at the time, took American hostages and kicked sand in our face. By negotiating from weakness Carter could not get the hostages released.

The big benefit of the Carter years is that they were followed by the Reagan years. The nation got a clear look at the difference between a weak nation and a strong nation. Every student should know this difference. When Ronald Reagan took over the hostages were quickly released, taxes were lowered, inflation dropped, mortgage rates dropped, and the military was strengthened. Russia quickly waved the white flag and waited for another Democrat term.

Clinton took over Carters uncompleted social programs. He weakened the military and tried to pass large government programs. An Intern derailed his Presidency. While he was tied up with his personal problems his lawyers ran the country. He passed up three opportunities to take out Osama Bin Laden. This eventually cost us the loss of our Twin Towers, thousands of American lives, and got us involved in a war with Iraq.

By the end of his term the left had captured a large share of the media and it flexed its muscle in 2000. The hate Bush campaign got off to a roaring start. The brainwashing theory of repeating the same story over and over again was launched.

There were endless stories about our evil nation and its President. Top-secret plans were leaked to the press and printed for the entire world to see. Hollywood cranked out documentaries about the evil Bush administration and our evil military. They laid the groundwork for the next election. The ACLU flooded the courts with lawsuits and the Democrat party became a law firm. Almost every incumbent, or his or her spouse, is a lawyer.

They now have the perfect candidate because they can squash criticism by playing the race card. If you don't like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist. They can hide his inexperience and background by turning him into a rock star and singing change and hope. They don't tell us what kind of change, or how it will be done, only that you should hope for the best. By keeping the hype going they don't have to put anything of substance on the table.

The only thing we really know about Obama is that his wife has never been proud to be an American. They want us to believe that his liberal college professors, Rev. Pfleger, his ties to radicals Bill Ayer and Lewis Farakon, and listening to the Rev. Wright's hate talks for 20 years, had no influence on his thinking. If they didn't, then who did? He wasn't in business and didn't see fit to serve his country. These people launched his political career and their organizations received earmarks in return for their campaign donations and political help. They must have had some influence. Rev. Wright's church received over $15 million. That's only one small local church. Think on a national scale.

The change being promoted is a change back to the Carter years. It started in 2006 when the lawyer party took over. There have been endless lawsuits and investigations in retaliation for the Clinton years. It keeps the lawyers busy but does nothing for the economy. The economy has been in a downward spiral since they took over.

Returning to the Carter years of high taxes, high inflation, and a weak military is not the change we are looking for. We cannot cower to a bunch of crazies whose only goal in life is to kill us.

The old sage's (over 50) will have to play a big role in this election. The young people simply don't know what the aged know. The advantage of aging is the knowledge you accumulated. You know what United States means. You know what the seldom-heard word respect means. You know how wonderful freedom and independence is. You know the difference between a strong and a weak nation; and you know what it takes to keep it strong. You know history because you have lived it.

Although the old guard is dying off, and getting to tired to fight, they have to muster one more charge. If they don't, our children, and grandchildren, will never know the joy and freedom that is the bedrock of our country. The heat is slowly being turned up and the water is getting hot.

The old frogs better start jumping before it's too late

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Old 09-02-2008, 10:09 AM
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craven... the new avitar is awesome!!!!!!!!! i don't think the fact that her daughter is pregnant at 17 will be too big of an issue because....remember, obummer's mom was that age when she had him!
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wango.... GREAT POSTS!!!! keep 'em comin'
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:37 AM
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Awesome Wango. More, more, more!
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I was all set to go protest at the RNC but I had to go to Work.
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Remember guys.........
All this stuff is out there on the internet and in the media. It's free for the looking. I'm sure there are a lot of things on the three other candidates involved with this race. Good or bad, it's out there and helps to make up people's minds as they go to vote. My own personal problem is the out and out lies that follow this guy around like a dark cloud. The thing that boggles the mind is that the masses go automatically into "Bush Bashing Mode" and tie McCain with him. Well, that "sorry McCain" has Leiberman for a friend! Imagine that.......... He was once considered a VP possibility! Do I fault McCain for his friendship with him? Hell NO! You can be friends with anybody, black-white-brown-yellow-Dem or Republican..... I don't care. It doesn't have any bearing. The red flag that goes up with me is that the likes of the current Democratic party (Even a past President way worse than Bush!) can and will go meet with known terrorists. They also announce their willingness to go meet with Hamas, Taliban, Syria, Iranian-nut-job-what's-his-face and others. These people don't want to negotiate folks! They want to kill you and yours. They have the record and the "T"-shirt......... They have killed our people as well as our soldiers. (Remember the images of our boys being dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge? I'm 56 years old. That makes me an old fart in the eyes of a liberal. I have no hatred for these terrorists......... (Or a liberal) I want revenge for what they did to us as a Nation! I just don't like my Country sold down the river by a party that will negotiate with killers. Put somebody in office that will set in motion a plan to elevate the heat level in a country like theirs. Killing and maming is all they know. Get our boys out only after an honorable win. Then stand back and let the aviators of our military do things from 20 thousand feet. Remember the beginning of this war? We had no ground troops. We rained iron on these cowards for weeks.
I see the Kennedy's and the Pelosi's and on and on have families like all of us. If one of Nancy Pelosi's kids or grandkids were in the World Trade Center that fateful day, would she be so "kiss the feet" of terrorists or would she be having to do a gut check with her Christian soul and NOT turn the other cheek? I myself have sore cheeks. I've turned too much. I want to emulate my father, as he was part of that "Greatest Generation" that had can-do attitude. You couldn't repeat half of what was said by young soldiers after we got bombed by Japan. They were off by the thousands to extract revenge. At the end of the War, we have all read how there was nothing but an honorable and unconditional surrender. For God's sake people! It took a horrible means to end a horrible war. Now these extremists are looking to cook us in much the same way. You don't fight them and defend your homeland with peace negotiations. You send these ***tards straight to hell where they can have their complimentary 72 virgins. Protect your own. Protect your Country and it's borders. Vote for someone that will look after this Country. If the pieces don't make a puzzle come together to make a clear picture, you cast your ballot foolishly.
The name of this thread was "Our Future." If any of the four candidates don't have this Country in the forefront of their thoughts and deeds, they are being careless with my future, your future, our kids, grandkids, etc. Would you be madder than hell if even one showed they didn't care for your kid? I'd be madder than a big moma at a PTA meeting if you disrespected my child! Well....... When you mess with our future, you're messing with my kids, grandkids, etc. Yours too! Now are you getting mad? You're not a Democrat OR a Republican........ You're just mad. Now go vote your concience.
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Well said!
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wango..... do your fingers hurt yet? that's a lot of typing! if they don't hurt... keep it going! you have a great way with conveying your messages. you add just enough humor to keep it sane and you are still able to slap the sh*t out of the opposition! i love it when people use LOGIC and real life emotion at the same time!!!!!!!!! it takes a well tempered person to get from idea to a completed post! you do a great job!

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wango..... do your fingers hurt yet? that's a lot of typing! if they don't hurt... keep it going! you have a great way with conveying your messages. you add just enough humor to keep it sane and you are still able to slap the sh*t out of the opposition! i love it when people use LOGIC and real life emotion at the same time!!!!!!!!! it takes a well tempered person to get from idea to a completed post! you do a great job!

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Matt,
Fingers don't hurt when common sense and adrenaline mix! I've always loved a good fight when I know I'm right! You and 350 million other Americans feel the same way. Why have we let our back yard become the breeding ground for failure? Just stand up and talk out loud where you can be heard. Don't yell at people......... Just let them know that common sense prevails and stupidity has to hit the road. Where the heck is Eddie Chiles when you need him? (I know..... He's passed on.) I can still hear his little radio blurbs in the mornings on the radio....... "I'm mad as hell and I ain't gonna take it anymore!" Well Eddie........... Me to. God Bless America. I'm all for that.
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