Lower your aileron rates first thing. Learn it at a slower roll rate then bring the rates back up.

With engine torque, is it better to roll left or right? Or doesn't it matter?

Just your easiest roll direction. I can do them great to the right, still working on the left.

You do it so much, you will build up some muscle memory.

Originally Posted by KMatch

Don't be too quick to give up! I have a genetic nerve disorder taking out my legs and effecting my hands, and am in my 50s... With a ton of effort I can make a few laps doing rolling harriers in different directions. I was always known for my patience, uh, known for not having any, so there's an example of why you should keep trying! With my limits I focus on Kyle Woyshnis' style as I've never been a fan of XA to start with. Being able to do the slow moves with finesse is my goal. Rifle rolls are something I just tinker with at times. Inverted harriers are my Achilles Heal... For some stupid reason the pucker factor kills these.

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I do still mess with it, but at 68, feeling my reflexes and timing are not quite up to it!

On a related note, I stopped riding a motorcycle a while back, because I was no longer confident in my ability to avoid a car making a left in front of me. Happens all the time. A biker is killed, and the driver of the 4 wheeler says oops, with no further accountability. After a lifetime of riding, not worth it to me any more.

Originally Posted by AHicks

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I do still mess with it, but at 68, feeling my reflexes and timing are not quite up to it!

On a related note, I stopped riding a motorcycle a while back, because I was no longer confident in my ability to avoid a car making a left in front of me. Happens all the time. A biker is killed, and the driver of the 4 wheeler says oops, with no further accountability. After a lifetime of riding, not worth it to me any more.

Smart Man! .....

Originally Posted by AHicks

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I do still mess with it, but at 68, feeling my reflexes and timing are not quite up to it!

On a related note, I stopped riding a motorcycle a while back, because I was no longer confident in my ability to avoid a car making a left in front of me. Happens all the time. A biker is killed, and the driver of the 4 wheeler says oops, with no further accountability. After a lifetime of riding, not worth it to me any more.

Ha... you're so right...it's why I stopped Road Racing Superbikes....another Trophy wasn't worth not being able to walk, or worse !!!!

You have to know your limits. The smart ones don’t exceed them. At least practicing rolls you have a better chance of going home after an oops.

Originally Posted by ponyboy082662

Ha... you're so right...it's why I stopped Road Racing Superbikes....another Trophy wasn't worth not being able to walk, or worse !!!!

Racing, yes. It's been awhile now, but a few years ago (10 already?) I stopped riding super high powered sleds as fast as I could on 10' wide trails through the trees in the middle of the night in all kinds of conditions. The worse they were, the better we liked it! 40 years of riding so many thousands of miles with never an injury accident. So many butt puckered moments though. We used to drink early on, but then the sleds became enough where you didn't dare!

On a 600 lb sled with an easy 150+hp on tap, it doesn't take long at all to get in serious trouble.

If I crashed a sled, it was always on a track. We were in the hay bales several times! Thanks for the memories! Sorry to derail the topic. -Al