This is your captain speaking.

The weather is overcast and windy, and we will be landing at 45 degrees. Enjoy the view of the runway. Please change your underwear at your earliest convince. Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8WhBIz60Ko&eurl

Mmmmm,

The sale of clean underwear skyrocketed when that plane unloaded thats for sure.

wow......i heard the airbus is a handful in a crosswind, check out his flap position or lack thereof i guess the flight computer on these things dont really like to kick the rudder at the end!!!

I never gave that a thought. The computers in those things limit a lot of pilot input I understand. Never gave it much thought on cross controlling it in a good cross wind.

Now if that was in my old cub it would be a no brainer. That runway is plenty wide enough.

Alot of larger airliners have gear that swivel for crosswind landings. This way they don't have to kick it at the last minute as that can put alot of stress on the gear legs if still in the twisting moment upon touchdown. You can't do much of a wing low approach to touchdown with engines hangin on both sides either.
When you taxi behind them if they have not been able to bring them back it will sorta remind you of an old Nova with a sprung body driving down the road.

I did not know that the gear could swivel on airliners, that's very cool. I've noticed that they come in with the wings level. It would seem that the pilots instinct would be to drop the wing. I'm sure that they have to be trained not to do it especially if they have any time in a high wing plane.

This illustrates why you don't drop a wing with an airliner. Most of you have probably seen this. I can't imagine landing anything in this kind of wind. Even Captain Sully might have puckered up in these conditions.

Plane landing on heavy wind, almost crashes (1 min 6 sec)

other then the b52 the only airliner that has castering main wheels is the early boeing 737, thats because it could land in a crab in an auto land because it only had a 2 axis autopilot. the b52 gear can be dialed in to stay parallel with the runway while the fuselage is pointed into the wind.
the airbus really does hand fly like any other airliner, it does transition from one computer law to another but that landing was just beyond pilot/ aircraft abilities. they probably should have gone around. just my .02

Originally Posted by vsnap

Alot of larger airliners have gear that swivel for crosswind landings. This way they don't have to kick it at the last minute as that can put alot of stress on the gear legs if still in the twisting moment upon touchdown. You can't do much of a wing low approach to touchdown with engines hangin on both sides either.
When you taxi behind them if they have not been able to bring them back it will sorta remind you of an old Nova with a sprung body driving down the road.

737's are the only airplane I have ever seen that taxi sometimes with a bit of a "crab", they seem to have some "swivel" to them. Someone told me once what the deal was but I forget why they do it. No airliners have pilot controlled swiveling landing gear. All but the largest airliners still to the drop the wing and straighten it out method (slip). I am very surprised that guy didn't straighten her out some.

Well that answers that..

Originally Posted by jmoesdad

other then the b52 the only airliner that has castering main wheels is the early boeing 737, thats because it could land in a crab in an auto land because it only had a 2 axis autopilot. the b52 gear can be dialed in to stay parallel with the runway while the fuselage is pointed into the wind.
the airbus really does hand fly like any other airliner, it does transition from one computer law to another but that landing was just beyond pilot/ aircraft abilities. they probably should have gone around. just my .02

Agreed.

Originally Posted by vsnap

Alot of larger airliners have gear that swivel for crosswind landings. This way they don't have to kick it at the last minute as that can put alot of stress on the gear legs if still in the twisting moment upon touchdown. You can't do much of a wing low approach to touchdown with engines hangin on both sides either.
When you taxi behind them if they have not been able to bring them back it will sorta remind you of an old Nova with a sprung body driving down the road.

What? Where, exactly did you get that info? As an airline pilot, to not align directionally before touchdown is extremely poor form unless winds don't allow a full decrab. With that much wind you have to wonder about whether you should be landing. That video shows a complete lack of decision making unless the crew was in a low-fuel no divert condition (which isn't impossible, I guess)

Scott

Originally Posted by Kiwi

I never gave that a thought. The computers in those things limit a lot of pilot input I understand. Never gave it much thought on cross controlling it in a good cross wind.

Now if that was in my old cub it would be a no brainer. That runway is plenty wide enough.

I'm currently flying the Airbus 319/320, and the flight control laws don't limit bank angle until it reaches 67 degrees in normal law at normal speeds, and never limits yaw in the low speed regime. That isn't a player. The big issue is decision making in what were obviously severe crosswind conditions. I can't comment on that specifically, as I wasn't sitting there, don't know the fuel state, etc... that caused the crew to continue that approach in those conditions.

Scott

oh i remeber coming in slip all the time flyign sailplanes.. we would be in ever more cross angled then the videos here.. and would hold the slip until we cross 3 meter high fence at the end of the taxiway we landed on. neat about the swivel gear.. shopping cart with wings! tho sometimes i wonder why they down try to make another aprouch..
mike

hey scott...did i get that 737 stuff right? its been a while since ive flown the guppy.

Seems I saw more then 73's, But now you say that you are right. I really stopped looking at types after a while. Airliners really never peeked my interest so I really only pay attention to what I am flying . And yes they are suppose to straighten out upon roll out if I remember correctly, and they do look like a sprung nova. Guess I will sit back and just listen on this one.