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Old 05-02-2019, 06:18 AM
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I know the 400 ft is an issue for iMac gliders and a few others. I have a laser range finder I occasionally take to the field. I fly 35 percent and up, I am currently building a 43 percent. For general flying and 3D I find I am hardly ever going up to 400 ft. O suggest if you can obtain one it can be informative. I personally thought I was flying up around 600 ft to set up a blender or knife edge spin but I was going up between 375 to 450 ft on average. I do my best now to stay below 400 ft especially since our grandfathered field is less than 5 miles from DTO airport
450 is still over 400
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:18 AM
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This could get interesting.
My car has a built in speed limit.
It simply will not go faster than the set limit.
What if new models got similar vertical limits?
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:47 AM
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This is a good reason to stock up on rx and electronics now before new crap gets forced into them
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:48 AM
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>>> What if new models got similar vertical limits?<<<


They would stop at 400 feet and float away in the wind.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:11 AM
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I sincerely doubt we will see that kind of geofencing required for non-autonomous capable sUAS for the foreseeable future. Current and proposed laws do not even require that on drones that can easily implement that type of control. Could they require it? Sure, they could require you to wear a pink Tutu to fly. But I doubt either one will happen.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:56 AM
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They're get'n lower mate.....
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Pink tutu .......???
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Old 05-04-2019, 10:30 AM
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Apologies if this has already been posted. You may not like the AMA, but they seem to have some sway in Washington.
https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/...67PcXFp0nRjmms
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Old 05-04-2019, 10:49 AM
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Apologies if this has already been posted. You may not like the AMA, but they seem to have some sway in Washington.
https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/...67PcXFp0nRjmms
That made my day.
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Old 05-04-2019, 01:59 PM
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Apologies if this has already been posted. You may not like the AMA, but they seem to have some sway in Washington.
https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/...67PcXFp0nRjmms
According to one columnist who reports on energy in SE Asia for The Financial Times...…….

He did not cite any specifics or quotes from any of the commercial interests, just his take on it.

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Old 05-06-2019, 06:02 AM
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The link doesn't appear to work any longer. What was in the article?
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:34 AM
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Model aircraft enthusiasts prove unlikely foe for Amazon
Model aircraft enthusiasts prove unlikely foe for Amazon
Tech industry insiders say hobbyists are effective lobbyists against commercial drones
By Kiran Stacey
May 2 2019
https://www.ft.com/content/2574825c-...d-04f350474d62

Mark Kitka does not look like your average activist. A stocky former navy pilot with a neat white moustache, he has spent the last two years lovingly recreating the S3-Viking he flew for the military in near-perfect model form.

But Mr Kitka is also part of a group of model aircraft enthusiasts who have proven to be one of the most effective lobby groups in the US against rules that would allow widespread commercial drone flying.

Technology executives say the Academy of Model Aeronautics has been an unexpectedly powerful opponent in the race to get their aircraft airborne, adding the group is one of the main reasons Amazon and others are still unable to deliver their goods by drone.

“We are all waiting for the Federal Aviation Administration to come up with the rules which would allow commercial drones to fly,” said one lawyer working in the sector. “But every time the regulator proposes something that would also impinge on model aircraft hobbyists, the AMA bombards members of Congress with emails and phone calls.”

The AMA says it wants to be excluded from any rules the FAA proposes, arguing the regulator’s current proposals could cost its members a total of $2bn.

Mr Kitka said the rules could mean each individual hobbyist has to pay hundreds of dollars to fit equipment to their models to allow them to be identified remotely by law enforcement or other agencies.

“Putting a $1,000 transponder on aeroplanes would be the end of model aircraft flying,” he said in a recent interview at his local flying field in rural Maryland.

Under current rules, anybody in the US can buy a drone from a shop and fly it almost anywhere, except over certain protected sites. The main restrictions are that fliers cannot fly their aircraft over people, at night or, crucially, out of their line of sight.

Companies wishing to fly drones where their operators cannot see them currently have to register as an airline, as Alphabet’s Wing Aviation did last month. But the cost of complying with airline safety standards is steep, and the FAA is drawing up rules that would allow drones to operate more widely.

According to lawyers and industry experts, however, the main sticking point is remote identification. If commercial drones are to fly beyond the line of sight of their users, law enforcement agencies say they must be able to identify immediately who their owners are — otherwise there will be more incidents such as the one that brought London’s Gatwick airport to a standstill last December.

But given that current laws do not differentiate between drones and model aircraft, model aircraft fliers worry they will be forced to fit heavy and potentially expensive transponders to the outside of their lovingly-made devices.

For some, the added weight could impede their racing performance. For others, it would detract from the perfection of their replicas.

“This S3-Viking is the only one like it in the country,” said Mr Kitka, who has fitted his model with a miniature pilot and printed his own name on the side under the cockpit window. “It is 95 per cent accurate.”

Fellow model aircraft enthusiast Rick Moreland added: “We have competitions to judge how perfect our scale models are. You don’t want anything on the model that wouldn’t be there in real life.”

Commercial drone operators, however, vociferously oppose any exemptions for model aircraft.

In a submission to the regulator in 2017, the Commercial Drone Alliance argued: “For tracking regulation to be successful, it is imperative that any such regulations encompass all but the smallest and most unsophisticated UAS [unmanned aircraft systems] in order to be effective.”

The regulator is due to publish its recommendations on remote identification later this year, but the date keeps getting pushed back as it looks for ways to accommodate the concerns of various groups, including the model aircraft community.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:08 PM
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>>>Commercial drone operators, however, vociferously oppose any exemptions for model aircraft.<<<


Vociferously definition, crying out noisily




Here you go,,,



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Old 05-06-2019, 05:18 PM
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LOL! They can come to my field and track my plane going in 800 foot circles as much as they need to feel comfortable.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:42 PM
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Like the current Part 107 enforcement of any rules is not going to happen with the FAA unless there is a serious accident. The AMA could try to get clubs to require compliance, but I don't see that happening in any substantial way.

All of this comes down to the FAA having a framework which they can use to issue violations if you cause an issue. I simply cannot see them policing it actively.
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:22 AM
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So, as flying season is here in the north,,, is there a post or web site that outline the "current rules" in simple English? The AMA site is a joke and these posts are nothing but noise.
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