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Old 10-07-2019, 04:55 PM
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And now this:

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...19/10/07/4029/

Summary: FAA is ignoring the AMA and implementing Section 349 as written
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:08 PM
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We all need to ask the Experimental Aircraft Association to become our new CBO. The AMA has what, 140,000 members? That’s $5.6 million in new memberships at their current rate. It’s closer to $10 million at the AMA rate, which I think most would happily pay if the EAA provided the lifeline we need.

The EAA was successful in getting the light sport rules through so clearly they have the expertise that the AMA does not.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:22 PM
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So yuh'all saw the last email from AMA?...
Prolly NO FLYING OVER 400 feet every where all the time for every body....

I PLAN TO FREQUENTLY AND RECURRINGLY VIOLATE THIS REGULATION!!
F' THE FAA
I will NEVER do something that endangers humans lives... that is Rule #1....
but for DECADES we as RC modelers have flown with 1000 to 1500 foot ceilings and been safe and responsible....

I SHALL NOT COMPLY!
Agreed... I've got too much money, time and energy invested in this hobby.. I'm not going to stop nor change what I've been doing for the last 2 decades safely. Just like the rest of our Government, they have made it abundantly clear they cannot be trusted. I'm willing to work with them up to a point...but this is going too far.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:29 PM
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And now this:

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...19/10/07/4029/

Summary: FAA is ignoring the AMA and implementing Section 349 as written
I was stunned by this AMA statement:
We were stunned by this proposal and are pushing back, but we need your help.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:39 PM
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I was stunned by this AMA statement:
We were stunned by this proposal and are pushing back, but we need your help.
Sadly the AMA has a long history of being stunned by the FAA.

Recall that the last "Call to Arms" was to save 336, which it did. For a few months until the FAA got Congress to write 349.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:52 PM
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Sadly the AMA has a long history of being stunned by the FAA.
The FAA is tasked with integrating sUAS into the NAS. The AMA needs to wake up and realize they are not going to codify exceptions unless they are “forced” to, This is a huge deal to large portions of the membership. The wait and see approach has obviously not worked and anyone close to the situation should have seen this coming.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:56 PM
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This is why you do not send STUPID back to office. They got us in to this mess. I find it hard to believe that sending them back to do more of the same is good for us or the hobby.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:27 PM
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Well, this crap has been going back and forth now since like 2014... tired of stressing over it.... I've been flying exactly the same way today as I have since long before 2014. I will keep flying as I have for the foreseeable future. and I won't stop until the police cart me off to jail for playing with my toys. The only one's who know what's happening and care, are us...The kid down the street buying his first drone could care less...and he'll go flying where ever he wants...
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:40 PM
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The kid down the street buying his first drone could care less...and he'll go flying where ever he wants...
And he won’t care because his drone is geo fenced and won’t let him exceed the limits. Then when he gets bored in a month, it will go in the trash. This affects jets, IMAC, soaring, etc.
They won’t come arrest you, or even know if you fly above 400ft. ( unless there is an incident). Rather this will affect clubs and fields, especially those owned by municipalities. One or two complaints by a disgruntled member or neighbor, and the field will be history.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:57 PM
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And he won’t care because his drone is geo fenced and won’t let him exceed the limits. Then when he gets bored in a month, it will go in the trash. This affects jets, IMAC, soaring, etc.
They won’t come arrest you, or even know if you fly above 400ft. ( unless there is an incident). Rather this will affect clubs and fields, especially those owned by municipalities. One or two complaints by a disgruntled member or neighbor, and the field will be history.
Exactly.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:33 PM
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I know this decision by the FAA is unfair and rather atomic in nature but I say we each go
yell at the neighbor kid or our dog about what is going on. venting here is likely to be
a big fat negative if read by the wrong folks...….
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:53 PM
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We all need to ask the Experimental Aircraft Association to become our new CBO. The AMA has what, 140,000 members? That’s $5.6 million in new memberships at their current rate. It’s closer to $10 million at the AMA rate, which I think most would happily pay if the EAA provided the lifeline we need.

The EAA was successful in getting the light sport rules through so clearly they have the expertise that the AMA does not.
Nice comment.
What would it take to make this happen? Or even get the ball rolling?

Hard to believe rc airplanes are the devil when ultra lights can fly how they want.

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Old 10-08-2019, 07:38 AM
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And he won’t care because his drone is geo fenced and won’t let him exceed the limits. Then when he gets bored in a month, it will go in the trash. This affects jets, IMAC, soaring, etc.
They won’t come arrest you, or even know if you fly above 400ft. ( unless there is an incident). Rather this will affect clubs and fields, especially those owned by municipalities. One or two complaints by a disgruntled member or neighbor, and the field will be history.
RC Clubs get complaints from disgruntled neighbors and members all the time. Hardly an indicator of anything.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:25 PM
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So yuh'all saw the last email from AMA?...
Prolly NO FLYING OVER 400 feet every where all the time for every body....

I PLAN TO FREQUENTLY AND RECURRINGLY VIOLATE THIS REGULATION!!
F' THE FAA
I will NEVER do something that endangers humans lives... that is Rule #1....
but for DECADES we as RC modelers have flown with 1000 to 1500 foot ceilings and been safe and responsible....

I SHALL NOT COMPLY!

Congratulations - you just did the FAA 's job for them by documenting in writing, publicly, your intention to violate the law.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:47 PM
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And wouldn't you know it? Our club president just sent out an email stating the following:


Gateway RC Club members: if you have not already seen this notice below, please read and I hope you will take action as this will impact many of our members and most events.

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