Hey Guys we at Flying Giants can not allow the sale of raffle tickets! You are more than welcome to post youe event! Damon, my appologies!
ITS STILL ON!!!
$20,000 Texas Shoot Out 2010

Check Website for updates, Pics and Videos http://www.jetero.com/imac.htm

Greg thanks for posting something about the Texas Shoot Out back up on Flying Giants after you guys took down the Thread.

A few questions form me and our members?

1. Still don't get why you guys killed the whole thread and all 10 months worth of posts, Pics, videos, and info? If it was because of the Raffle Why were we not notified, warned or even informed?

Why did we not have the opportunity to correct what ever problem there was?

Why was (whatever post that upset you guys) the post not deleted why the whole Event Thread?
I found out from FG members PM'ing me to find out where the thread went. I was pretty disappointed.

2. Also we are a 501C non-profit organization and are 100% compliant with state and federal laws which rules consist of

1. You must be in good standing with the State with your 501C charter.... which we are.
2. You must not conduct more than 2 Raffles a year..... Which we never do.
3. You must order special State compliant Raffle tickets from a state certified printer.... which we do.
4. You can never pay for advertising.... Which we have never done.
5. Plus a host of other crazy rules..... Which we follow to the T.

Bottom line we have jumped through all these hoops to make sure we are 100% above board and legal. Even Pay Pal (almost as big as FG ) allows us to use them for Raffle tickets because we are 100% compliant.

Our Fund Raiser is to help repair repair the devastation caused by Hurricane IKE.

• The State of Texas Says we are good to go
• The US Government says we are good to go
• Pay Pal says we are good to go
• But Flying Giants says Kill the Thread??????????????????? Does not compute

So I get if you guys have some internal rule that won't allow raffle ticket sales even if the organization is legal and compliant. But this should be across the board and not just some events like ours. Currently you have other events that are selling tickets on Flying Giants and there Threads are going strong, does not seem balanced from our perspective.

Also if someone unknowingly posts something that is not allowed under FG rule. I think they should be informed and allowed to correct it. Or at least delete the post that is causing the problem not the whole thread. Just a thought.

Also we went through the rules with a fine tooth comb and you guys have a lot of them and as of 8/25/10 we could not find where it states that we cannot mention fund raisers / raffles.

• Current Raffle tickets on FG RDRC 2010 Raffle / fundraiser I love the cause and I bought tickets myself. Thanks FG for allowing them to advertise otherwise I would not have known about them.
  This is a quote from there Thread "- The Online Raffle Ticket Sales are "on" and running well, with tickets already moving" Link to Post
• Past Raffles on FG Sin City Raffle Link
  
• Past Raffles on FG Joe Nall Raffle Link
  
• Past Raffles on FG Past Raffles Raffle / Fundraiser Link
  

Last year we had no problem promoting the event and the fund raiser on FG. What has changed?

I apologize if I'm out of line here just trying to wrap my head around it.

$20,000
2010 Texas Shoot Out

3D Free Style / TAG Program /IMAC Event.

September 25th-26th 2010
Houston, TX

We have over $20,000 worth of prizes
to give away at the event.

Best of all you don't have to attend or even be there to win any or all of the 15 Main Prizes!
Check out the website for more info
http://www.jetero.com/imac.htm

1. Extreme Flight 88” Extra RTF
2. Mojo 60 GK 115 RTF
3. Extreme Flight 110” Yak ARF
4. DA-100 w/Mufflers
5. Aero Works Extra 104” ARF
6. H9 Aristi OS .91 RTF
7. 50cc SBACH 89” ARF
8. E-Flite P-38 Elec. RTF
9. Peak Models SU-29 / DLE 30 ARF
10. E-Flite Extra 260 RTF
11. E-Flite Brio 10 RTF
12. Geat Planes 50cc Cap 232 ARF
13. Spektrum Alpha 40 RTF
14. Desert Aircraft Gift Certificate
15. Parkzone Corsair PNP

So Come make this an event to remember. Even if you can't make it take advantage of the Amazing Fund Raiser!

You can mail in payment for Registration or Donations to our club Treasurer:
Jetero Texas Shoot Out
3207 CEDAR VILLAGE DRIVE
KINGWOOD, TX 77345

You do not need to be present to win any of the Raffle prizes but shipping costs are up to the winner. Winners will be posted on Jetero's Website on Sunday the 26th.

Tickets for registered pilots at contest will be awarded as follows:
* 1 Ticket with each pilot Registration (2 tickets if you pre-register 9/20/10)
* 1 Ticket for each new IMAC pilot with IMAC registration
* 1st Place in each category wins 3 Raffle Tickets
* 2nd Place in each category wins 2 Raffle Tickets
* 3rd Place in each category wins 1 Raffle Ticket

Anyone attending or not, may also participate with the fund raiser with all proceeds go to help repair the devastation caused by Hurricane IKE. This is a 501C non-profit Charter.

For more info about fund raiser http://www.jetero.com/imac.htm

Even if you have never competed in a contest you can enter the Basic Class. So bring your bird out and Join us for some good ole Texas Hospitality!

In addition we'll have some of the top pilots in the world at the event so you'll get to meet them and learn from them.

Brett Wickizer Wold FAI Team Member, XFC Competitor Rick Byrd, XFC Competitor Lee Ulinger (I'll update more as I get confirmation)

Classes:
• Basic (introductory class fly any aircraft you want)
• Sportsman
• Intermediate
• Advanced
• Unlimited
• Freestyle (This is a combo of 3D and precision flying. Usually
done to music) Know to Spectators as "The AirShow"


We are expecting over 3500 spectators. In addition we are expecting Radio and TV Coverage as well as the local newspaper.


Special Thanks to the amazing companies donating products for the event. Hat's off to you:

• 42% Products
• Blazing Wings
• Bob Smith Glues
• Cali Graphics
• Carden Aircraft
• Castle Creations
• Cermark
• Desert Aircraft
• EG Aircraft
• Extreme Flight
• EZ Balancer
• Graph Tech Gear
• Higher Planes
• Hobby Lobby
• Horizon Hobby
• Kirby Graphics
• Ulinger Foamys
• Madison RC
• Micro Fasteners
• NE. IMAC Builds
• RC-Lights
• RTL-Fasteners
• Smart Fly

Local Support:

• HEB
• Kingwood Signs
• Larry’s Hobbies
• Mikes Hobbies
• Power Hobbies
• Randy’s Hobbies
• RC Hobby Shop

Several more are on the way. Check the Website for Updates and more information:
http://www.jetero.com/imac.htm

We look forward to having you fly with us and if you have any questions please let us know.

Damon damondarnall@gmail.com (713) 259-0449 cell
John jforestieri@aviainternational.com (713) 594-8901 cell


Event Wrap up from 2009 click here

Texas Shoot Out 2009 IMAC / FreeStyle Mix 1 (3 min 41 sec)

1st annual Texas Shoot Out Mix 2 (9 min 48 sec)

Come out and meet Mrs. Texas Shoot Out 2010. Shauna Smith! She is our official Raffle / Trophy Girl !

Look forward to seeing everyone this Year!

Originally Posted by Kitman

Hey Guys we at Flying Giants can not allow the sale of raffle tickets! You are more than welcome to post youe event! Damon, my appologies!
ITS STILL ON!!!
$20,000 Texas Shoot Out 2010

Check Website for updates, Pics and Videos http://www.jetero.com/imac.htm

In reply to the above statement, looking back thru Event Coverage Archives it seems that FLY-For-Tots has been selling Online Raffle Tickets in the postings on Flying Giants ever year since 2006 along with several other events posted. I have been looking thru all the disclaimers and forum policys but have not found any mention about this subject.
Sorry for dragging Fly For Tots into this but seems like FG Mods are a little selective who may post raffle events.


Texas Law states http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/raffle.shtml
Charities & Nonprofits:
Charitable Raffles


The Charitable Raffle Enabling Act, effective January 1, 1990, permits "qualified organizations" to hold up to two raffles per calendar year, with certain specified restrictions. A raffle is defined as the award of one or more prizes by chance at a single occasion among a single pool or group of persons who have paid or promised a thing of value for a ticket that represents a chance to win a prize.
Charitable Raffles ActRaffles and Casino/Poker Nights in Texas Frequently Asked Questions



In general, a qualified organization is:

1. A nonprofit association organized primarily for religious purposes that has been in existence in Texas for at least 10 years;
2. A nonprofit volunteer emergency medical service that does not pay its members other than nominal compensation;
3. A nonprofit volunteer fire department that operates fire-fighting equipment, provides fire-fighting services, and does not pay its members other than nominal compensation; or
4. A nonprofit organization that has existed for at least three preceding years and is exempt from federal income tax under Section 501(c), Internal Revenue Code; does not distribute any of its income to its members, officers or governing body; does not devote a substantial part of its activities to attempting to influence legislation; and does not participate in any political campaign.

The language of the law is very technical. If your organization is considering holding a raffle you should check the statute to be sure it qualifies.
Prizes Offered and Proceeds from Ticket Sales

A qualified organization may offer any prize except money. “Money” is defined as coins, paper currency, or a negotiable instrument that represents and is readily convertible to coins or paper currency. If the raffle organizers offer a prize which they have purchased or have given other consideration for, the value of the prize may not exceed $50,000, or $250,000 if the purchased prize is a residential dwelling. There is no value limit on prizes donated to the organization.
Texas lottery tickets may be purchased and offered as prizes, even though the tickets' payoff may exceed $50,000. The organization must have each raffle prize in its possession or ownership or must post a bond for the full amount of the value of the prize with the county clerk of the county where the raffle will be held.
Proceeds from ticket sales must be used only for the charitable purposes of the qualified organization.
Restrictions


A qualified organization is not required to register with the State before conducting a raffle. However certain restrictions apply.

• A qualified organization may hold only two raffles per calendar year and only one raffle at a time.
• Raffle tickets may not be advertised statewide or through paid advertisements. Each raffle ticket must state: 1) the name of the organization conducting the raffle; 2) the address of the organization or of a named officer of the organization; 3) the ticket price; 4) a general description of each prize having a value of more than $10; and 5) the date on which the raffle prize(s) will be awarded.
• No one may be compensated directly or indirectly for organizing or conducting a raffle or for selling raffle tickets.

Interesting....... why why why

Looks like its going to be a great event.

Was wondering what happened to the thread.

Obama must have gotten involved.

Originally Posted by ddlstang

Was wondering what happened to the thread.

Obama must have gotten involved.

You are a Rockstar Dale! That is some kind of funny! I think that is exactly what happened.


Here is the link to the new new official Thread for the Texas Shoot Out! LOL
https://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/...58#post1249281

Just in case FG kills this thread.