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Old 12-18-2012, 02:05 AM
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Jwilson...is that Walter from breaking bad on your avatar?
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:45 AM
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Yup, the great Heisenberg! Probably the best show ever! I'm a huge BB fan...
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:55 PM
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Yup, the great Heisenberg! Probably the best show ever! I'm a huge BB fan...
SAY MY NAME!....SAY MY NAME!
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:04 PM
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You clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger, Skyler. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot, and you think that of me? No! I am the one who knocks!

WW is a bad mamma jamma! Haha....
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:30 PM
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Ok guys can i just ask again about the "box", I fly F3A and i want to give imac a go, im after picking up a Hanger 9 Sukhoi 85cc. Im practicing the Sportsman 2013 schedule with a 50cc Yak 54 and im using the same box as i would you for the 2 Meter F3A plane.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:36 PM
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IMAC does not have a box like pattern.

When beginning the sequence you need to let the judges know you are about to begin so they know when to start judging. The audible signal that most use is “entering the Box”. The meaning is that the pilot has entered into the aerobatic airspace and judging begins when the pilot departs wings level horizontal flight.

What we do have is a score called ACS, or airspace control score. This is judges from 0-10 and is used to judge how well the pilot controls the position of each maneuver.

A typical weekend you will fly about 3 known rounds and one unknown round, for basic you would fly a known round instead of an unknown. Each round consists of two sequences.

Welcome to IMAC. You’ll have a blast.
Here you go... No box in imac
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:42 PM
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And no centering criteria either!
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:27 PM
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Question....
Advanced sequence....... Figure #7.. the loop with the 1/4 roll and 3/4 opposite roll across the top.... should the end of the 1/4 roll be centered? Should the roll rates be consistant or should the extent of the rolls be symetric?
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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and is it a strict deal to fly according to wind direction?

Could one fly with a right handed wind orientation on the first sequence and a left handed on the second?
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:39 PM
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and is it a strict deal to fly according to wind direction?

Could one fly with a right handed wind orientation on the first sequence and a left handed on the second?
No and Yes......You do not have to fly "into the wind"......lots of guys only practice in one direction and fly this exclusively. It is definitely recommended that you pracice in both directions though....you never know when its going to blow like a banshee in the opposite direction you have practiced.
You can swap directions in between sequences as long as you clearly let the judges know of your intentions. You cannot change direction in the middle of a sequence...obviously

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Old 12-19-2012, 04:44 PM
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what I mean is each flight is 2 sequences... can the first sequence be right handed and the second sequence left handed? (Not sure I would do it...)

When I was practicing the pattern sequences... I made sure I never developed a preference for a left or right
orientation...
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:45 PM
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Ok but what about base line height and Distance from you, like is it over 150meters or dose it depend on the size of plane? Also Your center line on maneuvers? Sorry to be awkward i just thought it was very similar to the pattern style.

Is the ACS judging how well you use he airspace and size of the schedule maneuvers?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:30 PM
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Advanced sequence....... Figure #7.. the loop with the 1/4 roll and 3/4 opposite roll across the top.... should the end of the 1/4 roll be centered? Should the roll rates be consistant or should the extent of the rolls be symetric?


The beginning of the ¼ roll to the end of the ¾ roll should be centered. Any deviation from center is a ½ point per 5 degrees.
The roll rate of the ¼ should be constant within it’s self and the ¾ roll should be consistent within it’s self. The rate of the ¼ does not need to be the same as the ¾ roll.


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Ok but what about base line height and Distance from you, like is it over 150meters or dose it depend on the size of plane? Also Your center line on maneuvers? Sorry to be awkward i just thought it was very similar to the pattern style.
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Is the ACS judging how well you use he airspace and size of the schedule maneuvers?
Thanks for the help!



IMAC has a deadline that is a 100 feet from the pilot. You can fly as low as you want but you can not touch the ground.
There are no centering criteria in IMAC.

The ACS is down to one simple concept. Did the pilot place the plane so each maneuver could be optimally judged?

You are not awkward at all. Keep asking all the questions you want. That’s how we learn.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:06 PM
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The ACS is down to one simple concept. Did the pilot place the plane so each maneuver could be optimally judged?
Haven't flown IMAC, but have watched several, scribed at a few, and attended a judging school. The above comment says that there is a lot of judges discretion, and that is consistent with what I have observed while scribing. I have rarely seen a down mark for either sound or ACS, but I have seen maneuver scores that might have been nudged by positioning problems.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:07 PM
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Question....
Advanced sequence....... Figure #7.. the loop with the 1/4 roll and 3/4 opposite roll across the top....

should the end of the 1/4 roll be centered?

Should the roll rates be consistant or should the extent of the rolls be symetric?

Nope. The 3/4 roll should stop opposite of where the 1/4 roll started. As you stated, "the extent of the rolls be symmetric". The combination of the two rolls is centered at the top of the loop.

The two rolls do not have to be the same rate. They are two different elements. Changing the roll rate during either roll is a deduction, though.

http://www.mini-iac.com/Portals/0/Do...les/SA2011.pdf


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what I mean is each flight is 2 sequences... can the first sequence be right handed and the second sequence left handed? (Not sure I would do it...)

Yes. As castlebravo, said, be sure and alert the judges that you're switching directions so they will be looking at the correct Aresti.
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