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Old 01-07-2011, 01:45 PM
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Re: Full-Scale Airports, RC Flying (and hopefully a little mutual understanding)

Does anyone know what happened with this situation? Who got the blame in the end run?
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:01 AM
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Re: Full-Scale Airports, RC Flying (and hopefully a little mutual understanding)

Bingo to OP certainly agree.
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Old 04-16-2011, 08:39 PM
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I live at an airpark with 18 other homes that share a private airstrip. I have been involved in model aviation for over 30 years. An airpark is designed to support full scale aircraft, this is the primary purpose. As a group of homeowners on the airpark we are liable for the actions that occur on our airpark weather we invite another full scale pilot to land, drive our car across the runway or fly a model airplane in the vicinity of the runway. It is not uncommon for model aircraft to fly in the vicinity of our airpark, but models must ALWAYS give the right of way to ANY full scale aircraft operations. Without being in direct radio communication with the other aircraft, I would want to error to caution and assume the landing aircraft needs to land immediately. (low on fuel, engine problems, etc).

If I see a full scale aircraft in the vicinity of the airpark, I would assume his intention is to land. Generally in the full scale aviation world, a flyby of a runway means intent to land, clear the runway. In this case, if the full scale aircraft made a low flyby first, I would immediately land the model aircraft.

On the other hand, a low high speed flyby down the runway with the full scale SA750 is a reckless manuver at an uncontrolled airport even if it's your private airstrip.

I would be willing to bet the pilot of the full scale SA750 decided to have a little fun, probably monitoring the CTAF heard no other aircraft in the area. Time to buzz the runway. Well, he never thought of a hovering RC aircraft over the runway and the rest is history.

Reading the accident investigation it reads like any other, a bunch of half truths from the pilot in an attempt to avoid any guilt. (insurance and FAA problems).

Is the RC pilot at fault? Absolutely not, he was a guest of this airpark. He is not a full scale pilot, how should he know the rules and operation of this airpark.

Is the full scale pilot at fault? It's hard to place blame here either, he is returning to his home airport, possbibly not expecting model aircraft to be flying. To be honest, when I fly full scale and approach an airport, model airplanes are the last thing I am watching for.

Is the event organizer responsible? In my opinion, yes. He is a member of the airpark, he should be responsible for the safety of the spectators, home owners and potential aircraft operating in the area.
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Old 04-17-2011, 12:13 AM
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I put most of the blame on the full scale pilot because as I understand it he was in radio contact with the
airboss and had been told there was a model in the air, The full scale then told the airboss he was going
around but instead made a hi speed low pass down the runway or just to left of the runway.
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:57 AM
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I'm going to wait and see who then the FAA and NTSB hod responsible, because, you see, their opinions are the only ones that matter.
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I can't believe this thread is still going.

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Old 04-17-2011, 08:18 AM
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I live at an airpark with 18 other homes that share a private airstrip. I have been involved in model aviation for over 30 years. An airpark is designed to support full scale aircraft, this is the primary purpose. As a group of homeowners on the airpark we are liable for the actions that occur on our airpark weather we invite another full scale pilot to land, drive our car across the runway or fly a model airplane in the vicinity of the runway. It is not uncommon for model aircraft to fly in the vicinity of our airpark, but models must ALWAYS give the right of way to ANY full scale aircraft operations. Without being in direct radio communication with the other aircraft, I would want to error to caution and assume the landing aircraft needs to land immediately. (low on fuel, engine problems, etc).
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Old 04-23-2011, 04:52 AM
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With 100% certainty, I can guarantee you that the full-scale pilot involved in the incident would have NEVER deliberately ignored the advisement of RC flying being in progress above the runway, and proceeded with a low pass that would have put him in close proximity to the RC model. I guarantee the full-scale pilot NEVER saw the RC model.
While you make some fair comments on the incident, the only time you can make these comments is when you're speaking for yourself.

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