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Old 08-26-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

I'm finding gas VERY confusing >.<
im reading over your posts over and over again.
And the set-up and pictures just make it look intimidating to build
Any idea of a "First" gas model that isnt too hard to setup?
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:09 PM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

Unless you get into some hard core scale or racing stuff, the complexity is about the same on any size or type of gas plane. It's not hard, you're just new to it. Take it one system at a time so you don't get overwhelmed. For example, what specific questions do you have about:
1 - Fuel tank and plumbing?
2 - Ignition system setup, batteries, kill switch?
3 - Engine mounting?
4 - Exhaust / mufflers?
5 - Tuning, fuel mix, prop selection?

Once you have the basics for those five areas you are pretty well set for success. This thread already answers a lot of them, make sure you've read it carefully then fire away with questions about what you still don't understand.

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Old 08-26-2009, 08:16 PM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

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I'm finding gas VERY confusing >.<
im reading over your posts over and over again.
And the set-up and pictures just make it look intimidating to build
Any idea of a "First" gas model that isnt too hard to setup?
Dude, this isn't going to be hard at all. Just ask questions as you see fit and folks here will help you. Heck, I'm going to be building my first gasser very soon and I'm ready for snags. There's guy's at my field that will help me as well as guy's here too. Don't sweat it, have fun and take your time!!
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:27 AM
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Unless you get into some hard core scale or racing stuff, they complexity is about the same on any sized or type of gas plane. It's not hard, you're just new to it. Take it one system at a time so you don't get overwhelmed. For example, what specific questions do you have about:
1 - Fuel tank and plumbing?
2 - Ignition system setup, batteries, kill switch?
3 - Engine mounting?
4 - Exhaust / mufflers?
5 - Tuning, fuel mix, prop selection?

Once you have the basics for those five areas you are pretty well set for success. This thread already answers a lot of them, make sure you've read it carefully then fire away with questions about what you still don't understand.

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

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I'm finding gas VERY confusing >.<
im reading over your posts over and over again.
And the set-up and pictures just make it look intimidating to build
Any idea of a "First" gas model that isnt too hard to setup?
Just follow the thread and you shouldn't have any problems. If you should hit a snag just PM me and I'll be happy to help you out anytime. I check on here a couple times a day. As far as the setup goes they are all pretty much the same and the one described here is very basic. They only get more complicated with other accesories I'm afraid.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

All good info, just take your time and do some reading..
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:01 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

I am also building my first gas airplane.

When attaching the fuel line to the tank what's the best method? I have heard soldering fuel barbs onto the tubing, using a bead of solder on the tubing, or just using twist ties.

What oil is best for a DLE30 break-in? There is a disagreement going on in the DLE30 thread. I am leaning towards Stihl HP Ultra or another Synthetic oil from the start.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:14 PM
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Barbs on the tubes work best for the fuel line. I use tie-wraps as well. As for the oil, you should use whatever the distributor tells you to keep your warranty. I use Belray H1R @ 40:1 on all of my engines from day one but, as I said, you should follow the instructions of the distributor to avoid voiding the warranty.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:13 PM
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. I use Belray H1R @ 40:1 on all of my engines from day one
I'm running H1R at 32:1 on my DA's, but have run a mineral based for break in... Do you find it takes longer for the engine to break-in on BR when you use it from the start? (I just got into Gassers last year)

This would be great to just run the H1R all the way around, I could stop lugging 2 pump jugs to the field every time.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:09 PM
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That's all I ever run from day one and they break in just fine. I wouldn't go to 32:1 though. 40:1 works great with H1R with no power loss and plenty of protection. My neighbor just bought a brand new Poulan chainsaw and guess what came with it, a bottle of Synthetic 2 2-stroke oil to run it in on.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:32 PM
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Thanks Al! I'll try the 40:1 at the end of this gallon (Tomorrow if the wx holds)
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:39 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

Hey guys,
Should i start out with glow first? I havnt even tried that yet ( Ive been the elecric kid at the field )
Would it help me understand gas set-up better?
Thanks!
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:12 AM
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Depends on your circumstances. If you've become an accomplished pilot with electrics then there's no reason you couldn't go straight into gas with a 72" and a DLE-30 or even a 28% or 30% with a DLE-55. If you're still learning you might want to go to a trainer such as the Nexstar until you're comfortable with your flying skills. Don't know what electrics you've been flying but if it's the light weights you're going to want a little more experience with the heavier wing loading, especially the landing part. As far as glow versus gas, I find that the gas planes require less field equipment and are cheaper to operate.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:24 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

I bought a plane with an Opti-Kill switch that was run off the gear switch on my Tx. However, it stopped working. I then bypassed the opti-kill, so power goes right from the ignition switch to the Ignition itself. I then programmed my throttle servo to the gear switch so that when I hit the gear switch, it moves the throttle all the way to zero point so it cuts the engine off. Mechanically, I've accomplished what I need, i.e., having a kill switch on the radio. Beyond that, is there any problem with this setup?
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:25 AM
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Re: Just For Newbee's to Gassers

Hey, PvT! It would be inadvisable for you to go directly to the complicated gas engines. I just happen to have several lightly used glow engines that I would be happy to sell you at a very good price. But seriously, if you can handle some of the aerobatic 'lectrics, then I wouldn't think it would be much of a problem. Maybe a flying buddy would give you a little stick time on one to see how it feels to you before you jumped in.
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