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Old 08-31-2008, 12:29 AM
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[quote=pepatrick;555600]I would like to know one thing Obama can do your with your income better than you can do with your income. quote]


I'm backing his campaign.
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:31 AM
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that'll show 'em!
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:40 AM
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Obama/Biden
sounds like Osama Binladen doesn't it .funny play of words.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:33 AM
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I'll say it again.............John Banks for President!

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Old 08-31-2008, 05:36 AM
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I have (6) 40%ers and will be getting a jet soon and I am not wealthy by no means.Having big planes and jets just means you have a small bit of expendable cash. Oboma will get my vote because I care ware my hard earned dollars go.

This is a joke. . right?
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:49 AM
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If you really cared where your money went...you would do a much better job than Obama. Not saying McCain is the Republican answer...but...come on...I would like to know one thing Obama can do your with your income better than you can do with your income...other than take more of it.
Man... you like to stir it up, huh?

Publically, I'm for tax cuts, free boob jobs, and a 4-day work week! Privately, you know where I stand. I miss the days when you could just pull the "republican" lever on the ballot machine and save yourself a lot of reading!
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:57 AM
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To say if Obama gets elected one will be able to buy more Da 85's is profound. It is sad that people will vote for the lesser of the evil, not someone with true value.

If you don't know this already, taxes don't go away with a certain person in office. You will pay taxes for the rest of your life.

It is sad that alot of people base there vote of just taxes, not true value.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:37 AM
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Wall of text incoming.

What's sad is that The System has conditioned the American Public into believing that so many of these taxes are necessary over the course of time, that most just take it for granted and NEVER question it.

This country ran fine without an income tax. What it couldn't do without an income tax, was allow the banking cartels to manipulate the monetary system, and wage wars for no other reason than to feed the war machine.

We need, but no longer have in the running, a candidate who is acutely aware of how this country's economic system works. McCain has publicly stated that he doesn't know, and Obama has never clearly addressed it (which leads the astute observer to believe that he as well doesn't know.)

Economics is the driving force behind all governmental policy, regardless of how mundane it may be. We have a monetary system that is unconstitutionally controlled by a central banking cartel, and that cartel is in place for one reason and one reason only- to take as much of OUR money as they can while leaving us just enough to keep on keeping on. That is why they continue to bail out PUBLIC companies that go tits-up due to bad business practices- it is in their best interests to keep that company afloat, instead of letting them crash and leaving the void that would otherwise be there.

And who do you think foots the bill for these billion-dollar bailouts? You and I do, friends. The American taxpayer. We pay for it all, directly through inflation. "The Hidden Tax", as it's been called, because it is so sneaky that it goes right over most of our heads. The reason we have inflation is because the Federal Reserve just prints more money whenever they feel the need- thereby devaluing the money already in circulation.

If you don't think there is a banking cartel you need to read into history a bit. World War 1 started with the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, and his assassin was a member of a secret group funded by the Rothschild's (who controlled the Bank of England.) From that point, the Rothschild cartel secretly funded BOTH sides in WW1, knowing full well that no matter WHO won the war, they were going to make out on interest payments. WW2 was the same way- when the Lusitania was sunk by a German U-boat with Americans on board (thereby drawing the US into a war which it had been neutral towards, up to that point), it was secretly carrying munitions to the Allies. The passengers were unaware, despite the fact the German Embassy in New York posted flyers around the docks and at travel agencies warning potential passengers to not go transatlantic because they were heading into a war zone. Who paid for all of those secret munitions? The JP Morgan group, a "child" of the Rothschild banking cartel in England that had flourished here in the States.

The same JP Morgan group not-so-secretly funded the presidential bid of Woodrow Wilson, who was an ardent supporter of the Federal Reserve Act- the sole purpose of which was to establish a bonafide central bank in the United States (which had happened twice before in our history, and been shortly shot down, since our founding fathers knew quite well what central banking does to a country, having gone through it with the Bank of England prior to colonizing the States.)

This all means nothing in this election, right? WRONG. It means everything, because most every politician out there is under the impression that the Federal Reserve is a governmental institution- when it is most certainly not. It's about as governmentally controlled as is Federal Express, with about as much federal influence. Yes, the President appoints some members to the Federal Reserve board- less than half of them. The remainder are selected BY THE BANKERS THEMSELVES!

Those who control the money that the government receives, control the government itself. Not to mention the people of this nation, who rely entirely on the economy and what direction it goes.

Now, I know this little monologue of mine addresses little directly associated with the immediate election. But you have to look deeper than the issues the candidates are spewing at you- because those are the issues they want you to focus on. We, the American people, need to look beyond what Washington tells us, and take matters more into our own hands. Elimination of taxes is a great thing, but it can never be acomplished without eliminating the bureaucratic programs that thrive on those absurd taxes. As long as the programs are in place, they will always seek funding- and if one well dries up they will take from some other program (Social Security, anyone?)

We need to get politicians in place at the local level who have an understanding of why the system is broken, and start making changes locally first. These lifelong Washington politicians are never going to change the system for our betterment, they will only change it for their own sake. Those politicians need to go, and be replaced by "the common man" who knows what it's like to work 60+ hours in a week and STILL bescrambling to make ends meet. Not because he bought a house way out of his league, but because the "affordable" house he bought for his family is no longer affordable because interest rates and taxes have gone through the roof faster than his own income has gone up. In case you haven't noticed, inflationary adjustments only work in favor of the banks- NOT the people of the country. Just think- when was the last time you got a raise at work just to cover the cost of living?

The "change" Obama prattles on about is crap. It'll be change, all right- change to a more clearly Socialist society. A youth "volunteer" corps? Government-paid schooling and medicine? I don't think so. Or you can choose McCain, who is going to keep the United States in every war that he can- knowingly continuing to fund the same banking cartel that essentially controls the Council on Foreign Relations (of which Obama, McCain and Biden are all known members. Not sure about Palin yet), which essentially controls the foreign affairs of the United States (from outside of congress, which is illegal.)

There will be no change in this country at all after this election. It will be more of the same bureaucratic BS, more taxation with less representation, and more hardship on the ever-dwindling middle class.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:39 AM
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This is a joke. . right?
No joke bro.
Uh, make that 7 40%ers,I missed one.
They all are ready to fly.
I hardly have time to go to work anymore with all these planes to fly and my club field is just a 1/4 mile away so that makes it even nicer.I always fly at least 4 days a week.I try to work when ever I get a chance.
If I was rich I would still vote for Oboma.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:40 AM
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if the true value you mention is working hard in order to support those that don't work at all...obummer is your man.

for starters....

he supports a health care system that will cost those already paying much more and will get those already paying much less care! shoddy care & long waits for me to attain shoddy care and long waits for someone who doesn't pay so hasn't had care in the past......NOT THANKS!!!!!
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if the true value you mention is working hard in order to support those that don't work at all...obummer is your man.

for starters....

he supports a health care system that will cost those already paying much more and will get those already paying much less care! shoddy care & long waits for me to attain shoddy care and long waits for someone who doesn't pay so hasn't had care in the past......NOT THANKS!!!!!

That sucks!!!!
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:25 PM
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That's it.. I'm going to run as an independant!

Cut taxes by 50%
Cut welfaer programs to six months of eligibility (to fund #1)
Senators/Congressmen must fund their own retirement/healthcare program - just like the rest of us!
Free boob jobs for all who pass a simple test... I'll give the tests!
Four Day work week (except for fiddy, who apparently never works)


Vote for me!
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:57 PM
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Obama scares me, I'll explain at the bottom.


Taxes and change talk are all pretty common on both sides. Nothing gets decided without congress/senate approval anyway and every bill that comes through is laiden down with verbage for both sides. So when you see a bill get passed or declined and both parties use it for their advantage.....go in and read what that bill was really for. Drilling for oil is one that has been in the media lately so its easy to see. Dems are against it, repub are for it. Pelosi now says she might agree to it, if you listen to the quick snip that media uses, what she has really said is that she would agree to limited, specific drilling if numerous other things she supports are in the same bill. That is how things get done....rub my back and I'll rub yours---while each tries to rub the others back for less time. Its also nice to note that since the Congress became Dem they still have not done anything like they promised. All the parties talk a good game but what really gets accomplished?

As for the scare---Military. Obama didn't vote for the war in Iraq(I have yet to see him say or proven he voted against it though). He wants to bring the troops home on a timetable announced to the world (perfect for surprise attacks or lets just wait till they are gone attacks). Not only does he want the troops out of Iraq but he wants them all back home from other regions. Can you say Desert Storm III?

The reasons for the Iraq war may have been wrong, mislead etc etc.....but remember you only get what the media wants you to hear. You don't have access to classified material. So you do not know the whole story and won't for sometime.

Next, Saddam was a tyrant who abused his people. I'm am 100% glad I was part of the war to rid the world of him along with my time against the Taliban in Afghan. Yes, there are things we could have done better post-Saddam and the surge was one of them.....which Obama was against because he said it would not work, now he sees it worked and cannot admit he was wrong. Finally, Obama now wants to put more troops in Afghanistan. Sounds like a troop surge (without calling it that). But what happened to bringing our forces home? He has no clue about the military, how it works and the importance of forward projection so that wars are not fought on our soil! And that is very important to me. I risk my life every day I go to work (flying is risky---ask my friends that died in the B-52/F-15C crash in the last few weeks during training). I take great pride in knowing that if there is a battle or war that our leaders have done a superb job of not letting it happen on our home soil! That way my family (and yours) can be safe and live a somewhat normal life. Decreasing that projection increases the risk that we will be attacked on our soil. I'm not going to say he flip-flopped since all the candidates "change" their minds...but he honestly doesn't know the world and how evil it really is.

I'm heading to Iraq again (after training) and I'm damn proud to help the Iraqi people be rid of the miltants (or terrorists) that are there.

I'm also going to support the Candidate that understands 9notice I didn't say supports...2 different things here) the Military. All the dribble about taxes and abortions and lifestlyes etc is all luxeries that we as Americans can afford because we have some of the best trained Military Units in the World and do not have to worry about Invasions like Georgia, Ukraine, Bosnia, Darfur etc etc etc.
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sorry Triple post
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:58 PM
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Sorry Triple Post

and 50%---your post below was funny!
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